From owner-freebsd-current Fri Aug 24 21:11: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB5B837B411; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 21:10:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: (from fullermd@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f7P4Ar159671; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 23:10:53 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 23:10:53 -0500 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: kc5vdj@yahoo.com, kris@obsecurity.org, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why is csh tcsh? This can be a bad thing... Message-ID: <20010824231053.U88304@futuresouth.com> References: <3B857DB1.2050904@yahoo.com> <20010823194003.C5214@xor.obsecurity.org> <3B85C895.6020602@yahoo.com> <20010824094600W.jkh@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010824094600W.jkh@freebsd.org>; from jkh@FreeBSD.ORG on Fri, Aug 24, 2001 at 09:46:00AM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Aug 24, 2001 at 09:46:00AM -0700, a little birdie told me that Jordan Hubbard remarked > From: Jim Bryant > > Because of certain differences, it cannot be used wholesale as a > > replacement for csh. > > Then please enumerate them so that they can be given due attention. > This is exactly the sort of detailed feedback that was requested when > we first raised the issue of switching over, and nobody could come up > with any concrete differences that would cause harm, so the deed was > done. It blew beets all over the startup script for ROM 2.4 MUD's. It's a crappy script (who the hell scripts in csh anyway? furrfu), but it took me a good half hour to figure out what caused it to suddenly stop working. I always mean to rewrite it in sh, but I ended up just copying in a /bin/csh.realcsh and pointing it over. So yes, there's a difference. But, on the flip side, I think that the fact that it's been this long without anybody screaming majorly (after the initial shakedown, of course) kinda sums it up. -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Unix Systems Administrator | fullermd@futuresouth.com Specializing in FreeBSD | http://www.over-yonder.net/ "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is because I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message