From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 27 15:36:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67C5316A42F for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 15:36:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (vc4-2-0-87.dsl.netrack.net [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E39F143D49 for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 15:36:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1] (may be forged)) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9RFXkq3042584; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 09:33:51 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 09:33:46 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20051027.093346.04239110.imp@bsdimp.com> To: gbergling@0xfce3.net From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20051027134919.GA858@node26.0xfce3.net> References: <20051027133336.GA740@node26.0xfce3.net> <22908.1130420323@critter.freebsd.dk> <20051027134919.GA858@node26.0xfce3.net> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0 (harmony.bsdimp.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 27 Oct 2005 09:33:52 -0600 (MDT) Cc: phk@phk.freebsd.dk, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wscons for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 15:36:47 -0000 In message: <20051027134919.GA858@node26.0xfce3.net> Gordon Bergling writes: : Hi, : : * Thus spake Poul-Henning Kamp (phk@phk.freebsd.dk): : > In message <20051027133336.GA740@node26.0xfce3.net>, Gordon Bergling writes: : > >I am currently working on project, which refactors a lot of FreeBSDs : > >console code. : > : > Sorry for nitpicking, but just to make sure we're clear about what we : > talk about here: : > : > When you say "console", do you mean : > "vga+keyboard" ? : > or : > "printf(9) destination" ? : > or : > "/dev/console" ? : > or all of the above ? : : What I mean was 'all of the above'. My projects aims to modernize : FreeBSDs console in a big picture. That whould range from "simple" vga : + keyboard to a possible machine indepent framebuffer API. wscons in NetBSD can be a console (as in /dev/console) destination. Much like sio(4) can be a console in FreeBSD. However, it is really a framework for integrating one or more frame buffers (vga), with zero or more keyboards and mice into a coherent input system. It is more of a syscons replacement than a solution to the 'console' issues that you've been keen on working out. Warner