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Date:      Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:44:53 +0200
From:      Edwin Mons <e.mons@spcgroup.nl>
To:        The Hermit Hacker <scrappy@hub.org>
Cc:        Doug Barton <Doug@gorean.org>, Christopher Masto <chris@netmonger.net>, Nick Hibma <n_hibma@calcaphon.com>, Chuck Robey <chuckr@picnic.mat.net>, "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy@veldy.net>, FreeBSD-Current <freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Perl 5.6.0?
Message-ID:  <38EC86C5.6010206@spcgroup.nl>
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0004060918210.2063-100000@thelab.hub.org>

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The Hermit Hacker wrote:
> =

> On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, Doug Barton wrote:
> =

> > Christopher Masto wrote:
> > > =

> > > On Mon, Apr 03, 2000 at 10:52:13AM +0100, Nick Hibma wrote:
> > > > Are there actually any good reasons why we _should_ upgrade in th=
e first
> > > > place?
> > > =

> > > Of course.  We now have an obsolete version of Perl.  That should b=
e
> > > reason enough to upgrade.
> > =

> > 	You haven't given a sufficiently compelling definition of "obsolete"=

> > yet. I think that what people are really asking is, "What does this n=
ew
> > perl get us that we don't already have?" Once we've answered that, th=
en
> > we can balance the benefits against the costs (which are pretty high,=

> > considering the complexity of integrating perl into the berkeley make=

> > environment) and then we can try and apply those arguments in the sea=
rch
> > for someone who is willing and able to do the work. =

> =

> My experiences with perl tend to be that as soon as a new release comes=

> out, all the module maintainers tend to adopt it as standard and start =
to
> deprecate the older versions.  I'm not saying that this is an overnight=

> sort of thing, but it does pose a problem ...
> =

> My stupid question, though, is why is this such a big issue?  Would it =
be
> too hard to extend our /usr/src build process so that it is smart enoug=
h
> to do an install out of ports, and just build the ports version of 5.6.=
0,
> vs trying to integrate it into our build tree?  Create a symlink to
> /usr/ports/devel/perl560 so that when it cd's to the perl directory and=

> does a 'make', it builds that?
Whoah!=A0 That would mean that I'd have to install the ports tree on ever=
y =

machine I intend to build world on..=A0 That's just not acceptable to me.=
=A0 =

The source tree should remain independant to external sources.

Regards,
Edwin Mons



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