From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 10 19: 3:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-201-166.mmcable.com [65.31.201.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2440637B417 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 19:03:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 19670 invoked by uid 100); 11 Dec 2001 03:03:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15381.30603.336885.866319@guru.mired.org> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 21:03:39 -0600 To: Leif Neland Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Spam and this list In-Reply-To: <11088552@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA v0.42/Python 2.1.1 (freebsd4) From: "Mike Meyer" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Leif Neland types: > How about using dnsbl, or whatever it is called in postfix? Personally, I hate the bl vigilantes, but that's just me. > Depending on my mood, I report much of the spam to spamcop.org. and it > often reports the servers blocked as open relays. > > I use bl.spamcop.net, inputs/outputs.orbz.org and relays.ordb.org > > I think mail.freebsd.org should use this too. We're already getting complaints from people because mail.freebsd.org wants the reverse DNS to be set up properly. Blacklisting would just make that problem worse, and not bring the spam to a stop. Since -questions is what shows up on every copy of FreeBSD as "Send mail here for help", so the harder it is for people to send email to, the harder it is for newbies to get help. As for the rest of the lists, going subscriber-only would help be nice. But I've had trouble getting any kind of improvements on the machines that FBSD.org runs on. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message