From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Jun 16 02:51:22 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA525A47C65 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2016 02:51:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oi0-x236.google.com (mail-oi0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 695C41E65; Thu, 16 Jun 2016 02:51:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: by mail-oi0-x236.google.com with SMTP id u201so49380555oie.0; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 19:51:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=i7oo1ZoQdABSCxOoqcqNRD2eH+W7YX8FvKff+KSABg4=; b=0rnWNqODWZxvahHjGQBpxY/kahoQ1tgIO/yBI6EFpK9q/dhSu+pVo880An8FrR2DoO EqHUQ9mVpxkKBuZba6k8SYsar/AAYvFTXeoDSU9Lsv56HIGtY1545UPhkGKBvXPqP3eg ZNTcatYbgX83eG5Rh1G1KZvGQuHpkEv8MyutuPWsRC/7iAS0SSbYPDFAagwqJHxeHd6q ULbcDHpcKh86SS89/I8lzIYD2WbJHsp2rQdWUiNlMh9sD43gp7Zbhqp7dS27ZqzNpFRK H5+FqJfqxMCgDiGVrblskQM+sENfbx2K21gDAPCR+3sUZQm5J0SyX8Dg1IlLaUuC3f3l 3e3g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=i7oo1ZoQdABSCxOoqcqNRD2eH+W7YX8FvKff+KSABg4=; b=EHT6hMxme3I9VG7cppk/SleJBnsfVYhnx4ni47/vwNBB/E/oFftZaLVYE0pU71cmp9 z/GpPmu+ww7CpTitjRgDBvDCSibHS2+CZViUQ9ZkDUnY3JQDvIY5YA7Wi26K0TIS05Bd 1avELITk01jzpwPdEHoXRM0i61BlvhoStRqDtleOv3tnehcD6ZXbM9/5gvAvTW4X1zky Q5x0mvb6TElQ4mcCZ7Xm0+nFgrn89zk5BWMfF+QAVtOmk38O2WHyAoOMW/1ggOhC4xDO MDix2958dAGJgPurQFxa4qWHoV4G/mGU0YUc7EEMj5HjSEa2txvkKcKxCrDgJ614Gig4 naWg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tKy+DoNMyBER0gAIbkUOJwr8+1GpPAbeY5RXxtc7myK7bOtbRuVh4mKu/HqT/IObiL4MJbsAVPdsUu+gg== X-Received: by 10.157.7.162 with SMTP id 31mr1207164oto.129.1466045481215; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 19:51:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.202.244.203 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 19:50:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <7c39e5ac-3ed7-f19a-e175-d27af07eea47@delphij.net> <5fc80d8ee559336a657514b3f2ec2a33@ultimatedns.net> From: Outback Dingo Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 22:50:41 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [CFT] ypldap testing against OpenLDAP and Microsoft Active Directory To: araujo@freebsd.org Cc: Nikolai Lifanov , freebsd-current Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 02:51:22 -0000 On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Marcelo Araujo wrote: > No worries Nikolai! If one day I will do it, will be on 12-RELEASE. > > Br, > > 2016-06-15 20:03 GMT+08:00 Nikolai Lifanov : > > > On 06/14/2016 21:05, Marcelo Araujo wrote: > > > 2016-06-15 8:17 GMT+08:00 Chris H : > > > > > >> On Thu, 9 Jun 2016 17:55:58 +0800 Marcelo Araujo < > > araujobsdport@gmail.com> > > >> wrote > > >> > > >>> Hey, > > >>> > > >>> Thanks for the CFT Craig. > > >>> > > >>> 2016-06-09 14:41 GMT+08:00 Xin Li : > > >>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> On 6/8/16 23:10, Craig Rodrigues wrote: > > >>>>> Hi, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I have worked with Marcelo Araujo to port OpenBSD's ypldap to > FreeBSD > > >>>>> current. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> In latest current, it should be possible to put in /etc/rc.conf: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> nis_ypldap_enable="YES" > > >>>>> to activate the ypldap daemon. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> When set up properly, it should be possible to log into FreeBSD, > and > > >> have > > >>>>> the backend password database come from an LDAP database such > > >>>>> as OpenLDAP > > >>>>> > > >>>>> There is some documentation for setting this up, but it is OpenBSD > > >>>> specific: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> http://obfuscurity.com/2009/08/OpenBSD-as-an-LDAP-Client > > >>>>> http://puffysecurity.com/wiki/ypldap.html#2 > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I did not bother porting the OpenBSD LDAP server to FreeBSD, so > that > > >>>>> information > > >>>>> does not apply. I figure that openldap from ports should work > fine. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I was wondering if there is someone out there familiar enough with > > >> LDAP > > >>>>> and has a setup they can test this stuff out with, provide > feedback, > > >> and > > >>>>> help > > >>>>> improve the documentation for FreeBSD? > > >>>> > > >>>> Looks like it would be a fun weekend project. I've cc'ed a > potential > > >>>> person who may be interested in this as well. > > >>>> > > >>>> But will this worth the effort? (I think the current implementation > > >>>> would do everything with plaintext protocol over wire, so while it > > >>>> extends life for legacy applications that are still using NIS/YP, it > > >>>> doesn't seem to be something that we should recommend end user to > > use?) > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> I can see two good point to use ypldap that would be basically for > > users > > >>> that needs to migrate from NIS to LDAP or need to make some > integration > > >>> between legacy(NIS) and LDAP during a transition period to LDAP. > > >>> > > >>> As mentioned, NIS is 'plain text' not safe by its nature, however > there > > >> are > > >>> still lots of people out there using NIS, and ypldap(8) is a good > tool > > to > > >>> help these people migrate to a more safe tool like LDAP. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> > > >>>>> I would also be interested in hearing from someone who can see if > > >>>>> ypldap can work against a Microsoft Active Directory setup? > > >>>> > > >>>> Cheers, > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> All my tests were using OpenLDAP, I used the OpenBSD documentation to > > >> setup > > >>> everything, and the file share/examples/ypldap/ypldap.conf can be a > > good > > >>> start to anybody that wants to start to work with ypldap(8). > > >>> > > >>> Would be nice hear from other users how was their experience using > > ypldap > > >>> with MS Active Directory and perhaps some HOWTO how they made all the > > >> setup > > >>> would be amazing to have. > > >>> > > >>> Also, would be useful to know who are still using NIS and what kind > of > > >>> setup(user case), maybe even the reason why they are still using it. > > >> > > >> Honestly, I think the best way to motivate people to do the right > > thing(tm) > > >> Would be to remove Yellow Pages from the tree, entirely. :-) > > >> It's been dead for *years*, and as you say, isn't safe, anyway.. > > >> > > > > > > Yes, I have a plan for that, but I don't believe it will happens before > > > FreeBSD 12-RELEASE. > > > > > > > Please don't, at least for now. NIS is fast, simple, reliable, and works > > on first boot without additional software. I have passwords in > > Kerberos, so the usual cons doesn't apply. This is very valuable to me. > > > > It's not hurting anyone. What's the motivation behind removing it? > Removing NIS is a BAD idea, there are still plenty of people that use it, and plenty of businesses rely on it, I still hear people asking for it > > > > > > > >> > > >> --Chris > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Best, > > >>> -- > > >>> > > >>> -- > > >>> Marcelo Araujo (__)araujo@FreeBSD.org > > >>> \\\'',)http://www.FreeBSD.org \/ \ ^ > > >>> Power To Server. .\. /_) > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > > >>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > > >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > >> freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > > >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > -- > > -- > Marcelo Araujo (__)araujo@FreeBSD.org > \\\'',)http://www.FreeBSD.org \/ \ ^ > Power To Server. .\. /_) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >