From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Dec 21 21:26:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F4C237B406 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 21:26:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from out006.verizon.net (out006pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF78743EDC for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 21:26:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dacut@kanga.org) Received: from kanga.org ([151.201.19.185]) by out006.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.20 201-253-122-126-120-20021101) with ESMTP id <20021222052650.UYCN19982.out006.verizon.net@kanga.org> for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 23:26:50 -0600 Message-ID: <3E054D2B.9010300@kanga.org> Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 00:27:07 -0500 From: David Cuthbert Organization: Kanga International User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20021130 X-Accept-Language: en-gb, en-au, en-nz, en-us, en- MIME-Version: 1.0 To: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's momentum and future prospects References: <20021221231417.GB32071@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <001101c2a948$2034b5e0$c601a8c0@silverdollar> In-Reply-To: <001101c2a948$2034b5e0$c601a8c0@silverdollar> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH PLAIN at out006.verizon.net from [151.201.19.185] at Sat, 21 Dec 2002 23:26:48 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Peter Kieser wrote: > On another note, the only reason Linux is getting commerical interest is > because people don't know about FreeBSD, they also don't know about the > goods of the BSD license, if corporations were made aware of how the BSD > license can be used, I gaurntee you we would have more people jumping on the > band wagon for FreeBSD development and such. I just don't think BSD in > general gets enough publicity. Yes, as a commercial developer, Linux is beginning to frighten me with their sudden declaration that binary-only device drivers are illegal. The rationale used (by Linus, at least) makes me wonder if they will try to apply it to anything that links with their headers. Unfortunately, Linux is the "hot" item at the moment in the industry (EDA, electronic design automation). > Also, on another note. There is really no BSD "desktop" distro, where > everything is configured automatically for you, this would help for newbie > users to pick FreeBSD over Linux. As maligned as it is, RedHat's graphical configuration is rather easy to use; I found it much easier to configure a RAID desktop there than using Vinum (which sysinstall doesn't grok). The one thing I have yet to see anywhere is a system that does a good job with package dependencies. For instance, I usually want to install "everything that doesn't depend on Qt or KDE". Most package managers are good at making sure that the dependencies get installed; none (that I know of, at least) will warn you that a package you don't want is about to be installed. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message