From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 14:35:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1BB6106566B for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 14:35:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 769368FC19 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 14:35:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id oBMEYwI6051203; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 15:35:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id oBMEYwXA051201; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 15:34:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <201012221434.oBMEYwXA051201@lurza.secnetix.de> To: erik@cederstrand.dk (Erik Cederstrand) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 15:34:58 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.3.5 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 22 Dec 2010 15:35:14 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Schedule for releases X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 14:35:17 -0000 Erik Cederstrand wrote: > Den 22/12/2010 kl. 09.52 skrev Oliver Fromme: > > > For me, personally, one significant problem is that I don't > > have the resources to easily run several versions of FreeBSD > > at home. > > Wouldn't a jail be sufficient for work that stays in userland? > For kernel work, I think a virtual machine would be much easier > than dual-boot. Well, it depends. In this thread, device drivers were mentioned in particular. You can't test those in jails or in virtual machines. For example, I would like to merge r210819 to stable/8 (it will have to wait until after the freeze, of course). But I can't easily test it on stable/7 because it's hardware-related. So I won't merge it to stable/7. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "And believe me, as a C++ programmer, I don't hesitate to question the decisions of language designers. After a decent amount of C++ exposure, Python's flaws seem ridiculously small." -- Ville Vainio