From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mon Aug 29 23:47:07 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7261FBC7661 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2016 23:47:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D80EFD5 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2016 23:47:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References: In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=56ucgq9HcM1v1RC4JKWHYNsYCf7L1xq7ppE3OP8UBEo=; b=bet3knU20pITuXIgvmosQF3mC0 /UG6MCGu0sdiChUtjQmscl5zKLuh+XtL5ZaQj7lGctvwAhvMA6l83z49uTirNeNKsDIT4SUlMtmAe DnfxMVciQeSCTwaZPes+qsrL6OImWaHw+C9fscm5uxpkLZ4EICXk+7mQIrOSFA3/csQA=; Received: from [114.120.238.157] (port=38955 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1beWGe-002Baa-Io; Mon, 29 Aug 2016 17:47:05 -0600 Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 07:46:56 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Fernando Herrero =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Carr=F3n?= Cc: Andrea Brancatelli , freebsd-stable Subject: Re: Benchmarks results for Compilers on FreeBSD 11 Message-ID: <20160830074656.18bfaf05@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20160819073422.4292997b@X220.alogt.com> <20160821144505.27c0f55d@X220.alogt.com> <827183a944ee4052649c152d65204444@schema31.it> <20160822101423.GF18643@e-new.0x20.net> <20160822120215.GV22212@zxy.spb.ru> <20160823110159.GU18643@e-new.0x20.net> <20160824045558.18c86764@X220.alogt.com> <3234db29c228879cc473deec0b09568c@schema31.it> <20160826132059.63c23ee5@X220.alogt.com> <20160828060601.08ea91a8@X220.alogt.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Authenticated-Sender: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 23:47:07 -0000 Hi, Micheal continued: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=3Dnews_item&px=3DFreeBSD-OpenMP-Base I just wonder if not enabling an option in base because the option is not required in base would make the documentation of the program useless except it is documented. The problem here is now that e.b. I look typically for information of a program at the program's site. I do not think that they care there what FreeBSD makes out of the program. With other words, it creates confusion. Erich On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 01:41:42 +0200 Fernando Herrero Carr=C3=B3n wrote: > El 28/8/2016 0:06, "Erich Dollansky" > escribi=C3=B3: > > > > Hi, > > > > Micheal did a plain compiler benchmark on FreeBSD 11: > > > > =20 > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=3Darticle&item=3Dfreebsd11-clang-gc= c&num=3D1 > > > > It shows clearly how slow CLang is compared to GCC. > > > > This is the price FreeBSD has to pay to be free of GPL in the base > > system. > > > > Erich =20 >=20 > Very cool comparison, thanks a lot! >=20 > I think gcc has a lot of knowledge and experience under its belt, a > larger user base so no wonder it performs [slightly] worse. What has > really surprised me has been ImageMagick, apparently because of > openmp. The OpenMP stack has been contributed by intel, clang 3.4 if > I recall it right. Surprising. >=20 > Cheers, > Fernando