Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 13:26:29 -0300 (EST) From: Pedro A M Vazquez <vazquez@IQM.Unicamp.BR> To: hackers@freebsd.org Cc: karpen@ocean.campus.luth.se Subject: Re: A bit off topic: GCC 2.8??? Message-ID: <199708161626.NAA21410@kalypso.iqm.unicamp.br>
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> I'm interested in using exceptions and other final standard C++ thingies, > and I'm therefor waiting for g++ 2.8.x to show up. It's not in FreeBSD yet, > but is it out there somewhere? > > If not, does anyone have any estimations at all on when it will be released? > And what will it handle? How finished is it? Any news? > > Maybe also... where _should_ I have asked this? :) And is there any web > page with updated news on how development is going, etc? I've just received this on the g77 list Craig Burley was saying that: > From burley@gnu.ai.mit.edu Sat Aug 16 13:11:20 1997 > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 12:03:47 -0400 (EDT) > Message-Id: <199708161603.MAA00647@churchy.gnu.ai.mit.edu> > From: Craig Burley <burley@gnu.ai.mit.edu> > To: g77-alpha@gnu.ai.mit.edu > Subject: [gumby@cygnus.com: A new project to merge the existing GCC forks] > > [Since this affects g77, I'm forwarding it here.] > > > ------- Start of forwarded message ------- > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 16:31:29 -0700 > From: gumby@cygnus.com (D.V. Henkel-Wallace) > Subject: A new project to merge the existing GCC forks > > A bunch of us (including Fortran, Linux, Intel and RTEMS hackers) have > decided to start a more experimental development project, just like > Cygnus and the FSF started the gcc2 project about 6 years ago. Only > this time the net community with which we are working is larger! We > are calling this project 'egcs' (pronounced 'eggs'). > > Why are we doing this? It's become increasingly clear in the course > of hacking events that the FSF's needs for gcc2 are at odds with the > objectives of many in the community who have done lots of hacking and > improvment over the years. GCC is part of the FSF's publicity for the > GNU project, as well as being the GNU system's compiler, so stability > is paramount for them. On the other hand, Cygnus, the Linux folks, > the pgcc folks, the Fortran folks and many others have done > development work which has not yet gone into the GCC2 tree despite > years of efforts to make it possible. > > This situation has resulted in a lot of strong words on the gcc2 > mailing list which really is a shame since at the heart we all want > the same thing: the continued success of gcc, the FSF, and Free > Software in general. Apart from ill will, this is leading to great > divergence which is increasingly making it harder for us all to work > together -- It is almost as if we each had a proprietary compiler! > Thus we are merging our efforts, building something that won't damage > the stability of gcc2, so that we can have the best of both worlds. > > As you can see from the list below, we represent a diverse collection > of streams of GCC development. These forks are painful and waste > time; we are bringing our efforts together to simplify the development > of new features. We expect that the gcc2 and egcs communities will > continue to overlap to a great extent, since they're both working on > GCC and both working on Free Software. All code will continue to be > assigned to the FSF exactly as before and will be passed on to the > gcc2 maintainers for ultimate inclusion into the gcc2 tree. > > Because the two projects have different objectives, there will be > different sets of maintainers. Provisionally we have agreed that Jim > Wilson is to act as the egcs maintainer and Jason Merrill as the > maintainer of the egcs C++ front end. Craig Burley will continue to > maintain the Fortran front end code in both efforts. > > What new features will be coming up soon? There is such a backlog of > tested, un-merged-in features that we have been able to pick a useful > initial set: > > New alias analysis support from John F. Carr. > g77 (with some performance patches). > A C++ repository for G++. > A new instruction scheduler from IBM Haifa. > A regmove pass (2-address machine optimizations that in future > will help with compilation for the x86 and for now > will help with some RISC machines). > > This will use the development snapshot of 3 August 97 as its base -- > in other words we're not starting from the 18 month old gcc-2.7 > release, but from a recent development snapshot with all the last 18 > months' improvements, including major work on G++. > > We plan an initial release for the end of August. The second release > will include some subset of the following: > global cse and partial redundancy elimination. > live range splitting. > More features of IBM Haifa's instruction scheduling, > including software pipelineing, and branch scheduling. > sibling call opts. > various new embedded targets. > Further work on regmove. > The egcs mailing list at cygnus.com will be used to discuss and > prioritize these features. > > How to join: send mail to egcs-request at cygnus.com. That list is > under majordomo. > > We have a web page that describes the various mailing lists and has > this information at: http://www.cygnus.com/egcs. > > Alternatively, look for these releases as they spread through other > projects such as RTEMS, Linux, etc. > > Come join us! > David Henkel-Wallace > (for the egcs members, who currently include, among others): > Per Bothner > Joe Buck > Craig Burley > John F. Carr > Stan Cox > David Edelsohn > Kaveh R. Ghazi > Richard Henderson > David Henkel-Wallace > Gordon Irlam > Jakub Jelinek > Kim Knuttila > Gavin Koch > Jeff Law > Marc Lehmann > H.J. Lu > Jason Merrill > Michael Meissner > David S. Miller > Toon Moene > Jason Molenda > Andreas Schwab > Joel Sherrill > Ian Lance Taylor > Jim Wilson > ------- End of forwarded message ------- >
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