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Date:      Tue, 28 Jan 2014 02:20:05 +0200
From:      Aleksandr Rybalko <ray@ddteam.net>
To:        Henry Hu <henry.hu.sh@gmail.com>, "Mike C." <miguelmclara@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, =?UTF-8?B?SmVhbi1Tw6liYXN0aWVuIFDDqWRyb24=?= <dumbbell@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Newcons radeonkms - Failed to load firmware "radeonkmsfw_TURKS_PFP"
Message-ID:  <52E6F7B5.2030805@ddteam.net>
In-Reply-To: <CAEJt7hYwZCwVXO1r265fjYR-05_qLiQdxHy-5ZdvBDO5QAWm2g@mail.gmail.com>
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On 27.01.2014 23:41, Henry Hu wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Mike C. <miguelmclara@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes the intel works fine.
>>
>> I dont understand onde thing though... if I have i915kms unloaded and try
>> to start X with the ATI card in xorg.conf should it work?
>>
> According to my experience with Optimus, you may need to do acpi calls to
> enable the ATI card.
> For my system, VGA output and LCD is connected to intel, and HDMI is
> connected to nVidia. So I can start an X with dual-monitor configuration on
> intel, and another X with HDMI output on nvidia.
No, that assumption is wrong.
Not sure about ATI technology, but nVidia Optimus is CHIP w/o any
video output, just PCI interface. It's writing resulting image into host
memory. Then host video output controller can be set to draw that
frame to any of outputs (VGA/HDMI/Composite/etc). If host has own
2D/3D unit it can draw to separate memory, but can be set to merge
both output (like PIP in TV)

Will try to do some ASCII art for that :)

| Optimus |                           | i915 2D/3D  |
+----+----+                           +------+------+
     |                                       |
     +--PCI--> (PCI Bridge)---+              V
                              |       +-------------+       +---------+
                              |       |             |   +--->|         |
                              |       |    FB1      +=+-|--->| VGA Out |
                              |       +-------------+ | |    +---------+
                              |       |             | | |
                              |       +-------------+ | |   +----------+
                              |       |             |+-|--->|          |
                              +------>|    FB2      +===+--->| HDMI Out |
                                      +-------------+        +----------+
                                      |  Host RAM   |
                                      +-------------+

huh, looks cute :)

So, any 2D or 3D unit can draw to any mem region (framebuffer), and any of
output controllers can read from any mem region.
>
>
>> Sorry if its a dumb question...
>>
>>
>> I dont mind using the intel tough, and investigate If I can pass the ATI
>> card to a windows guest.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> "Jean-Sébastien Pédron" <dumbbell@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
>>> On 27.01.2014 02:06, Miguel Clara wrote:
>>>> Its an HP Pavillion and digging more into it its indeed on of this
>>>> "Hybrid Graphichs" latops, so pretty sure it shares the same outputs,
>>>> at least for the LCD, (not sure about VGA and HDMI but I would say
>>> its
>>>> also the same).
>>> This kind of setup isn't supported on FreeBSD yet, unfortunately, and
>>> it's not a priority right now :-/
>>>
>>>> But when I tried starx (without the intel dirver and just the ATI
>>> card
>>>> - see xorg.conf attached files) I got an erro - segmentation fault,
>>>> see Xorgradeonkmserro.log
>>> I think there's no need to chase that segfault yet, as long as we don't
>>> support Optimus/PowerXpress.
>>>
>>> Is the Intel video card working correctly for you?
>>>
>>>> Any other usefull info, as long as I can grab it, I'll be glad to
>>>> attach, hoping this helps add +1 card to the supported ones!
>>> Thanks for your offer :) Your card is probably supported, beside this
>>> PowerXpress thing. But before we work on this, we have many required
>>> improvements to make to the whole GPU drivers subsystem...
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jean-Sébastien Pédron
>> --
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>
>
Thanks!

WBW



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