From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Dec 5 8:58:26 2000 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 5 08:58:24 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.netcologne.de (mail2.netcologne.de [194.8.194.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6969137B400 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 08:58:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from husten.security.at12.de (dial-194-8-209-76.netcologne.de [194.8.209.76]) by mail2.netcologne.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA07132; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 17:58:16 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (localhost.security.at12.de [127.0.0.1]) by husten.security.at12.de (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eB5GvtY76817; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 17:57:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from pherman@frenchfries.net) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 17:57:55 +0100 (CET) From: Paul Herman Sender: To: Dmitry Karasik Cc: Subject: One group for each user (Re: NGROUPS_MAX in sys/syslimits.h) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Dmitry, On 5 Dec 2000, Dmitry Karasik wrote: > On 05 Dec 00 at 10:00, "Paul" (Paul Herman) wrote: > > [...discussion about using one group for each user to your > advantage...] > > Paul> Makes sense in a backwards sort of way, but if a sysadmin can't > Paul> teach users how to use chmod, then he probably deserves the > Paul> punishment of dealing with more than 16 groups. That is definately > Paul> chmod's calling. > > What a masterpiece of an irony! What if a good half of users never use > anything but windoze? You still teach them about chmod. Even for windows users, it's possible. :-) In one firm, I gave the web developers a quick 30 sec. lesson on "users, groups, and others" and how easy it is for them to use their WS_FTP to change the permissions on files after uploading. (Because of the default umask, it was hardly necessary.) They were surpisingly responsive to this "new" concept. You may call me lucky, but it's surprising what you can teach when you tactfuly get the dept. on your side. -Paul. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message