From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 9 13:23:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4576C16A4CE for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:23:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from complx.LF.net (complx.LF.net [212.9.190.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4125643D13 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:23:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lists@complx.LF.net) Received: from lists by complx.LF.net with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ATpKa-0001NT-Eh for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 22:23:44 +0100 Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 22:23:44 +0100 From: Kurt Jaeger To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20031209212344.GB93443@complx.LF.net> References: <042601c3be94$c2ff3bd0$019c9752@xp> <001d01c3be97$90ac83b0$3d1f1fac@corp.firstlink.com> <047d01c3be98$a717ff20$019c9752@xp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <047d01c3be98$a717ff20$019c9752@xp> Subject: Re: Who are using FreeBSD for Hosting Env. and Which Update Method X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 21:23:47 -0000 Hi! > Which verison FreeBSD are you using ?! Most of the server: 4.9. Some bit-rot, we're working on it. > How long does it take to complate all process ?! For one server, if it's fairly recent: approx. 10 minutes of person-time, approx. 1-2 hours wall-clock (compiling). > You mean I can make source up-to-date (cvsup) / make world process at this > moment server can response to web clients ?! Yes. Only a short time (during the installworld and mergemaster) the system is in a somehow fragile state, but it works most of the time, so we do it in multiuser. The update 4.9 -> 5.2 will probably be much more difficult and we will test it extensibly, before we do it on production servers. > Why don't you choose binary update methode . Does it have problem ?! or it's > not a true way to keep up-to-date FreeBSD Good question 8-) > and do you test those process on other machine before apply those patches to > your production server ?! Yes, intensivly. We first do it to our desktop systems and testservers (approx. 40 systems) before we make the rollout to the visible servers. -- MfG/Best regards, Kurt Jaeger 17 years to go ! LF.net GmbH fon +49 711 90074-23 pi@LF.net Ruppmannstr. 27 fax +49 711 90074-33 D-70565 Stuttgart mob +49 171 3101372