From owner-freebsd-advocacy Thu Nov 2 14:10:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from smtp01.primenet.com (smtp01.primenet.com [206.165.6.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20AF037B4CF for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 14:10:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp01.primenet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA06334; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 15:09:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr09.primenet.com(206.165.6.209) via SMTP by smtp01.primenet.com, id smtpdAAAYWaaOl; Thu Nov 2 15:08:26 2000 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr09.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA19487; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 15:09:15 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <200011022209.PAA19487@usr09.primenet.com> Subject: Re: About introducing newbies to FreeBSD To: jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com (Jordan Hubbard) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 22:09:15 +0000 (GMT) Cc: bob@buckhorn.net (Bob Martin), freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <25170.973194470@winston.osd.bsdi.com> from "Jordan Hubbard" at Nov 02, 2000 11:47:50 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > question always boiling down to "Who the heck is going to write this > thing then?" > > That's generally where the discussion stops. Every man and his dog > can describe an installer which follows in the footsteps of Windows, > Solaris or even OS X now that we have its installer to look at since > imitation is a pretty straight-forward design challenge. As I first > said back in 1993, "who will step up to the plate and create this > alternative installer so that we can evaluate its merits and possibly > even make it the default?" I'm still waiting for an answer to that > question, 7 years later. :-) Maybe if there were money in it. I mentioned before that I knew someone was willing to do it with a "soft updates"-like license, where they got to make the money off it for a year after first release, then it would fall out into Open Source, and could be used by Walnut Creek, but they'd have to be able to market the CDROMs as something like "WhiteHat FreeBSD". Did I mention that I know the guy who put the "prograss bar" into the Windows InstallShield installer code, used by Windows itself and almost every program distributed for Windows? Not saying these two topics are related, but not saying they aren't, either... Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message