From owner-freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 18 18:40:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-bugs@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-bugs@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87F6A16A41F for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2005 18:40:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CB0343D45 for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2005 18:40:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7IIeLcN049584 for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2005 18:40:21 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j7IIeLWw049583; Thu, 18 Aug 2005 18:40:21 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 18:40:21 GMT Message-Id: <200508181840.j7IIeLWw049583@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org From: Bob Ippolito Cc: Subject: Re: misc/85087: send-pr should prefer to use HTTP, rather than mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bob Ippolito List-Id: Bug reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 18:40:21 -0000 The following reply was made to PR misc/85087; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Bob Ippolito To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: bug-followup@freebsd.org Subject: Re: misc/85087: send-pr should prefer to use HTTP, rather than mail Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 08:31:14 -1000 On Aug 18, 2005, at 3:54 AM, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2005-08-18 12:02, Bob Ippolito wrote: > >> >> I had attempted to send-pr last week, but it never went through. It >> turns out that the freebsd.org MTA won't accept mail from my server: >> >> Aug 11 23:45:57 go sm-mta[38236]: j7BCiYG9019787: >> to=, ctladdr= >> (1001/1001), delay=18:01:22, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, >> pri=3362068, relay=mx1.freebsd.org. [216.136.204.125], dsn=4.2.0, >> stat=Deferred: 450 Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname, >> [216.200.21.218] >> > > The problem is one that can be solved by properly configuring your DNS > setup. There is a very good reason why the MX of FreeBSD.org > refuses to > accept email from unresolvable addresses. It saves us from a ton of > spam mail :-) Users do not necessarily have control over their reverse DNS. Yes, I could go and fix my reverse DNS for this particular server, but I don't have a pressing need to and it's not really worth the administration hassle just to report FreeBSD issues. These machines are not on the internet to send or receive mail, and there's no other practical reason for reverse DNS to be set up properly. Bugs should be easy to report, and this isn't making it easy. Knowing that send-pr isn't going to work from any servers sitting in that colo, and that send-pr doesn't have an easy way to ship reports to a machine that does, I'm unlikely to report bugs at all... especially if they have attachments that I do not have on my workstation. The PR that was lost in the MTA queue due to this issue was actually an enhancement for a port, and this kind of response is really not encouraging me to bother with contributing to FreeBSD. I'm not saying that you should relax the MTA rules, I'm saying that there should be an alternate path for send-pr. One without an image- based captcha, of course. -bob