From owner-freebsd-smp Fri Nov 5 0:15: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from venus.GAIANET.NET (venus.GAIANET.NET [207.211.200.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B072156D7 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 00:15:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@venus.GAIANET.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by venus.GAIANET.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA56334; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 00:11:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@venus.GAIANET.NET) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 00:11:08 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: Adam Strohl , "Daniel O'Connor" , Darryl Okahata , freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dual Celeron + FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <199911050754.XAA52784@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 4 Nov 1999, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: Speaking about Celerons, even though this has nothing to do with SMP. What level of performance should one expect out of a Celeron 266 Slot 1 which has no cache at all. It seems that with that CPU, the system would freeze for a short while every once in awhile while in the shell or in a application like pine, is this normal? Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] > > In the real world the 1/2 the cache at 2x the speed makes all of JACK > > in performance difference from the "real" PIIs. It rocks. > > I have to agree with this. And given we are in the business of building > SMP servers I have had plenty of first hand experience. I had pretty > much ignored the Celeron until the PPGA370 version with slot-1 adapters > made it real easy for me to play with a few of them on the cheap in > some of the normally P3-450 to P3-600 based servers we turn out, and > guess what I found out... it's pretty darn hard to measure much of > any difference in any real world applications. > > Sure synthetic benchmarks can show a difference, but ``make world'' couldn't > tell me if I had dual P3-400's or Cereron PPGA-370-400s. I liked it so > much my main work box is now slated for a ``on the cheap Dual Celeron > upgrade''. > > Ohhh.. and K7's rock socks!! Our retail computer store front's clone > o magic K7/500 128MB with 5400rpm IDE disk drives was only 2 minutes > behind an AAI P3-450 512MB 7200rpm SCSI system on make world. Now to > go swap the scsi systems around and see who wins :-) > > > > > - ----( Adam Strohl )------------------------------------------------ - > > - UNIX Operations/Systems http://www.digitalspark.net - > > - adams (at) digitalspark.net xxx.xxx.xxxx xxxxx - > > - ----------------------------------------( DigitalSpark.NET )------- - > > > > On Fri, 5 Nov 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > > > > > > > On 05-Nov-99 Darryl Okahata wrote: > > > > These days, I'm not sure dual Celerons make sense. Unless you > > > > overclock (which I don't recommend, for all the usual reasons), you're > > > > only saving, oh, US$200-$230 compared to a comparable Pentium II-based > > > > system. Also, because of the small 128K L2 cache and the 66MHz bus (no > > > > overclocking, remember?), dual Celerons aren't as fast as dual P2s. > > > > > > *Only* US$200-$300? > > > > > > Sure the cache thing sucks ass, but if you are building a workstation on the > > > cheap then they're ideal.. > > > > > > I personally wouldn't mind saving US$250 :) > > > > > > --- > > > Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer > > > for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au > > > "The nice thing about standards is that there > > > are so many of them to choose from." > > > -- Andrew Tanenbaum > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message > > > > > -- > Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message