From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 4 14:51:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328D516A4CF for ; Fri, 4 Mar 2005 14:51:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.tnnet.fi (mail.tnnet.fi [217.112.240.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF99D43D5A for ; Fri, 4 Mar 2005 14:51:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jariruusu@users.sourceforge.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.tnnet.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E572EDF02; Fri, 4 Mar 2005 16:51:36 +0200 (EET) Received: from mail.tnnet.fi ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25606-07; Fri, 4 Mar 2005 16:51:30 +0200 (EET) Received: from armas (a64.adsl.tnnet.fi [217.112.242.64]) by mail.tnnet.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB6002EDEF5; Fri, 4 Mar 2005 16:51:28 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=users.sourceforge.net) by armas with esmtp (Exim) id 1D7E9I-0000HU-00; Fri, 04 Mar 2005 16:51:28 +0200 Sender: root@mail.tnnet.fi Message-ID: <422875F0.49877364@users.sourceforge.net> Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2005 16:51:28 +0200 From: Jari Ruusu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.22aa1r8 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Poul-Henning Kamp References: <11285.1109884555@critter.freebsd.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mail.tnnet.fi X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 04 Mar 2005 16:36:07 +0000 cc: ALeine cc: elric@imrryr.org cc: Todd Vierling cc: hackers@freebsd.org cc: tech-security@NetBSD.org cc: "Perry E. Metzger" cc: ticso@cicely.de Subject: Re: FUD about CGD and GBDE X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2005 14:51:43 -0000 Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > I am being a bit unfair here because I am lumping CGD in with the > equally defficient code in Linux (Loop-AES etc). It was mostly the > linux code I talked to people about, but CGD makes the same exact > mistake. Loop-AES for Linux has improved a lot since v1.X versions. Please take a look at recent v3.X versions which include security features that even your GBDE doesn't have. > It appears to me, that the people who designed CGD and the Linux > Loop-AES and similar focused very hard on the box that said "AES" > without giving much consideration to where the arrows between the > boxes went. Early versions of loop-AES were FUBARed, true. But why do you insist on ranting about fuckups that were fixed long time ago? -- Jari Ruusu 1024R/3A220F51 5B 4B F9 BB D3 3F 52 E9 DB 1D EB E3 24 0E A9 DD