From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 04:34:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6A2716A4CE for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 04:34:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92.asp.att.net [63.240.76.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39F3343D49 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 04:34:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92) with ESMTP id <20050125043425i92009vsage>; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 04:34:25 +0000 Message-ID: <41F5CC50.90406@nbritton.org> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:34:24 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041230) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Huppi References: <41F273B1.8080108@gmx.at> <41F37A75.9020208@gmx.at> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Cesar Mello cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Discovered a new browser... X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 04:34:26 -0000 Tom Huppi wrote: > >On Sun, 23 Jan 2005, Cesar Mello wrote: > > > >>FreeBSD is an excellent OS, I just dream with a GUI that's not as >>heavy as currently xorg is. >> >> > >Xorg seems to be the real sticking point. FreeBSD's virtual >memory subsystem has long been very good at adjusting to limited >resources (dunno if Linux has caught up in this respect yet.) >Matt Dillon wrote a nice technical description of how the VM >subsystem takes a certain number of page hits in order to gage >usage and adjust. It was quite noticeable in terms of >responsiveness back in the old days. > > > There is nothing wrong with Xorg and it is lightwight, the problem is what you run on it: Mem: 1460K Active, 3588K Inact, 13M Wired, 7792K Buf, 471M Free Swap: 1024M Total, 1024M Free PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 512 root 8 0 1800K 1240K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sh 513 root 96 0 2384K 1572K RUN 0:00 0.00% 0.00% top ----------------------------------------- Mem: 13M Active, 12M Inact, 19M Wired, 13M Buf, 446M Free Swap: 1024M Total, 1024M Free PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 529 root 96 0 82024K 20372K select 0:01 0.58% 0.49% Xorg 528 root 8 0 2180K 1240K nanslp 0:00 0.00% 0.00% xinit 514 root 8 0 1796K 1272K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sh 512 root 8 0 1804K 1244K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sh 532 root 96 0 2384K 1572K RUN 0:00 0.00% 0.00% top ----------------------------------------- Mem: 94M Active, 63M Inact, 58M Wired, 30M Cache, 60M Buf, 244M Free Swap: 1024M Total, 1024M Free PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 649 nbritton 96 0 96904K 35164K select 0:01 1.29% 1.07% Xorg 655 nbritton 96 0 9960K 8752K select 0:01 1.06% 0.88% gconfd-2 713 nbritton 96 0 21320K 17564K select 0:01 0.99% 0.78% gnome-panel 739 nbritton 96 0 19552K 14444K select 0:00 0.42% 0.29% clock-applet 720 nbritton 96 0 18472K 13500K select 0:00 0.31% 0.24% mixer_applet2 730 nbritton 106 0 17008K 12544K select 0:00 0.13% 0.10% gnome-netstatus-app 666 nbritton 96 0 20036K 14912K select 0:01 0.06% 0.05% gnome-settings-daem 653 nbritton 96 0 19344K 14432K select 0:01 0.06% 0.05% gnome-session 715 nbritton 20 0 29496K 24840K kserel 0:01 0.00% 0.00% nautilus 564 root 96 0 8364K 7128K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% gconfd-2 728 nbritton 96 0 17316K 13184K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% wnck-applet 734 nbritton 96 0 16604K 12192K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% multiload-applet-2 662 nbritton 96 0 6008K 4260K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% bonobo-activation-s 690 nbritton 96 0 11336K 8184K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% metacity 679 nbritton 96 0 3448K 2712K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% xscreensaver 737 nbritton -8 0 2920K 1128K piperd 0:00 0.00% 0.00% libgtop_server2 722 nbritton 20 0 9384K 6520K kserel 0:00 0.00% 0.00% gnome-vfs-daemon 660 nbritton 96 0 3484K 2908K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% esd ----------------------------------------- Mem: 115M Active, 79M Inact, 60M Wired, 30M Cache, 60M Buf, 205M Free Swap: 1024M Total, 1024M Free PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 649 nbritton 96 0 99028K 38268K select 0:02 0.90% 0.88% Xorg 690 nbritton 96 0 13964K 10644K select 0:00 0.15% 0.15% metacity 728 nbritton 96 0 19244K 15188K select 0:01 0.05% 0.05% wnck-applet 908 nbritton 20 0 40700K 34812K kserel 0:02 0.00% 0.00% firefox-bin 715 nbritton 20 0 29496K 24840K kserel 0:01 0.00% 0.00% nautilus 655 nbritton 96 0 9960K 8752K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% gconfd-2 713 nbritton 96 0 21352K 17584K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% gnome-panel 564 root 96 0 8364K 7128K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% gconfd-2 730 nbritton 99 0 17008K 12632K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% gnome-netstatus-app 666 nbritton 96 0 20036K 14912K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% gnome-settings-daem 653 nbritton 96 0 19344K 14436K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% gnome-session 739 nbritton 96 0 19552K 14444K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% clock-applet 720 nbritton 96 0 18472K 13500K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% mixer_applet2 737 nbritton -8 0 2920K 1128K piperd 0:00 0.00% 0.00% libgtop_server2 734 nbritton 96 0 16604K 12272K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% multiload-applet-2 662 nbritton 96 0 6008K 4260K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% bonobo-activation-s 679 nbritton 96 0 3448K 2712K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% xscreensaver 660 nbritton 96 0 3484K 2908K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% esd ----------------------------------------- Mem: 133M Active, 97M Inact, 63M Wired, 29M Cache, 60M Buf, 167M Free Swap: 1024M Total, 1024M Free PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 649 nbritton 96 0 98M 42512K select 0:03 2.11% 2.10% Xorg 1047 nbritton 20 0 58480K 39668K kserel 0:03 0.00% 0.00% thunderbird-bin 908 nbritton 20 0 40700K 34816K kserel 0:02 0.00% 0.00% firefox-bin 715 nbritton 20 0 29496K 24840K kserel 0:01 0.00% 0.00% nautilus 655 nbritton 96 0 9960K 8752K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% gconfd-2 713 nbritton 96 0 21352K 17596K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% gnome-panel 564 root 96 0 8364K 7128K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% gconfd-2 730 nbritton 107 0 17008K 12632K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% gnome-netstatus-app 728 nbritton 96 0 19244K 15188K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% wnck-applet 666 nbritton 96 0 20036K 14912K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% gnome-settings-daem 653 nbritton 96 0 19344K 14436K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% gnome-session 739 nbritton 96 0 19552K 14444K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% clock-applet 720 nbritton 96 0 18472K 13500K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% mixer_applet2 690 nbritton 96 0 13964K 10580K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% metacity 737 nbritton -8 0 2920K 1128K piperd 0:00 0.00% 0.00% libgtop_server2 734 nbritton 96 0 16604K 12272K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% multiload-applet-2 662 nbritton 96 0 6008K 4260K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% bonobo-activation-s 679 nbritton 96 0 3448K 2712K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% xscreensaver