From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 19 11:02:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD825C5D for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 11:02:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from aibo.runbox.com (aibo.runbox.com [91.220.196.211]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8744A2AD for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 11:02:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.9.9.241] (helo=rmm6prod02.runbox.com) by bars.runbox.com with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YOOYW-0005c4-7K; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 11:42:04 +0100 Received: from mail by rmm6prod02.runbox.com with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1YOOYW-0000BF-6y; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 11:42:04 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [Authenticated user (846156)] by runbox.com with http (RMM6); Thu, 19 Feb 2015 10:42:04 GMT From: "Jeffrey Bouquet" Reply-To: jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com To: "rkoberman" Subject: Re: default pager (csh) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 02:42:04 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: RMM6 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Cc: freebsd-current X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 11:02:18 -0000 On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 23:45:27 -0800, Kevin Oberman wro= te: > On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 10:46 PM, Franco Fichtner > wrote: >=20 > > > > > On 19 Feb 2015, at 02:27, Davide Italiano wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Adam McDougall > > wrote: > > >> The PAGER was less for about half a year and reverted. Please see: > > >> > > >> https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=3Drevision&revision=3D242643 > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > OK, I think this ends the discussion =3D) > > > > Nope, not good enough. The way I see it we achieved nothing > > despite the fact that several bugs are on the table. > > > > Now that we all agree more(1) is the way to go, can we please fix > > colouring and the pager quit issue for man pages using sensible > > options in more(1)? > > > > Other's should speak up for their woes with the FreeBSD defaults > > too. The defaults are supposed to be the best we can do. Right > > now, we can actually do better. :) > > > > > > Cheers, > > Franco > > >=20 > I want my bikeshed to be purple with yellow stars. >=20 > I want my PAGER to be Jim Davis's most(1). Does a LOT more than more or > less. (Does have the annoying te/ti thing, though.) Displays binary. > Auto-decompresses compressed files. Allows moving my line or percentage. > Whole raft of neat stuff. Usually the second port (after portmaster) I > install on a system since my finger type "most" even when I want them to > type "more" because the system does not have most installed. >=20 > I don't expect anyone else to agree and don't expect it to ever be in the > base, let alone the default. Still, it's a much better pager then less, > whether it's called more or not. Started using it at least 25 years ago on > VMS. > -- > Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer, Retired > E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Here: (.zshrc)... PAGER=3D'cat' alias man=3D'env PAGER=3Dlookat man $1' That bottom one is so useful for the 's' search key... EXAMPLES for instanc= e.=20=20 Same on all keyboards... [ seems easier to read with default colors, also... ] However in some instances (screen, dvtm, tmux... ) it may have onscreen art= ifacts one can simply then 'sh' (untested) first... for usual 'man' instance of P= AGER. /usr/ports/sysutils/lookat... [ Just re-noticed that 'cat' entry today. No idea of the difference to a d= efault... ]=