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Date:      Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:46:43 -0800
From:      Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group <Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca>
To:        Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@flood.ping.uio.no>
Cc:        Brad Knowles <blk@skynet.be>, Holtor <holtor@yahoo.com>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Kernel Option: TCP_DROP_SYNFIN 
Message-ID:  <200001111947.LAA55191@cwsys.cwsent.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "11 Jan 2000 09:42:13 %2B0100." <xzpya9xq9sq.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no> 

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In message <xzpya9xq9sq.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no>, Dag-Erling Smorgrav 
writes:
> Brad Knowles <blk@skynet.be> writes:
> > At 12:18 PM -0800 2000/1/9, Holtor wrote:
> > >  Would this help stop SYN floods from breaking my
> > >  freebsd computer? if anyones tried it, please speak
> > >  up with any results or how it works. Thanks!
> > 	I've used it and haven't seen it do any harm to the systems I was 
> > using it on, although I can't speak for how well it might have helped 
> > them survive a SYN flood.  Unless you're using TTCP (TCP for 
> > Transactions), you should probably be safe in enabling it.
> 
> It doesn't have anything to do with syn floods at all. It merely
> prevents OS fingerprinting (at least the way nmap does it).

The following ipfw rule will also prevent OS fingerprinting.

deny log tcp from any to any in tcpflg fin,syn

Would this too have problems with TTCP?  The reason I ask is that I've 
been using this rule for a ever since 2.2.x (cannot remember the exact 
date) and I haven't had any problems with TTCP enabled.  I know I 
should look at the RFC (and I will after lunch), but I'll ask anyway.  
Does TTCP use packets with SYN/FIN set?


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