From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 19 09:54:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F1C1065670 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 09:54:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 351C48FC25 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 09:54:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-103-124.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.103.124]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DBB51DD2A; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:54:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p6J9sOtU002323; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:54:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:54:23 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Jerome Herman Message-Id: <20110719115423.87c04925.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4E254C5D.3030501@dichotomia.fr> References: <20110717071059.25971662@scorpio> <4E22DFE9.7050007@pathscale.com> <201107172016.30727.lobo@bsd.com.br> <4E23989F.7010701@gmail.com> <4e242fab.s4vpgxxZEUq0LFDq%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <1311017168.44397.YahooMailRC@web36508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <23159_1311031267_4E24BFE3_23159_38_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499C5218659@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> <4E24C416.9020207@dichotomia.fr> <20110719081116.3fdf3ef1.freebsd@edvax.de> <4E254C5D.3030501@dichotomia.fr> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 09:54:27 -0000 On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:20:29 +0200, Jerome Herman wrote: > On 19/07/2011 08:11, Polytropon wrote: > > Arguing... what is easier at manually locating software using > > a web browser, manually downloading it and interactively > > holding the installer's hand while installing software? :-) > Well, of course installing is easier. But package management is not just > about installing. Of course it's not _that_ simple. :-) > Rigid packages won't allow fine grained tweaking that you might need. In such cases, compiling from source seems to be the preferred method - which is still possible on PC-BSD, although it's often suggested to stay with PBI. > > You could create a port that brings all this functionality > > in one rush. Remember that the ports collection is more than > > just about installing software - it can be used to even > > bring such features to the system and configure them. > A port that would reboot in single user, use tunefs to activate ACL here > and there, activate MAC and move most users to an LDAP auth ? I don't > think so. > Actually I would be scared if such a port was accepted in the port tree. In fact, that would be dangerous - especially if used by people who have no clue about what they're doing. What I was refering to is the ability of a meta-port to install a selected mix of ports, apply configuration and provide templates for common configurations. Of course it's up to the admin to instantiate those new functionality on the system. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...