From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Dec 23 13:43:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA11940 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 23 Dec 1997 13:43:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions) Received: from mhv.net (mgraffam@spice.mhv.net [199.0.0.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA11922 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 1997 13:43:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mgraffam@mhv.net) Received: from localhost (mgraffam@localhost) by mhv.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA14360 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 1997 16:43:29 -0500 Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 16:43:27 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Graffam To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: difference between Freebsd and Linux In-Reply-To: <19971223202435.13291.rocketmail@send1a.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 23 Dec 1997, Charlie Roots wrote: > It seems that Inter-OS compatibility is bothering > alot of people out there, here are some FACTS, Ok. > 1. No one, I mean NO one, on the net has got the > inspiration or the determination like FreeBSD Guys. > > 2. FreeBSD can run the Binaries of following OSs; > Linux (user & devel. level) > DOS (in 8088 emulation,slow motion mode) > Windows 3.1, Window 95 (via wine, STILL ALPHA) > SCO (Haven't tried this though) > FreeBSD :-) (naturally) Hmm. This isn't fair. From my understanding the Pcemu stuff, and Wine are NOT done by the FreeBSD guys (not to take anything away from their rather superb work). So, give credit where credit is due: No one, and I mean NO one has got the inspiration or the deterination like the FreeBSD, Wine or Pcemu guys. Cool. > 3. Linux is NO-WHERE near FreeBSD. I agree with this in a technical sense, and as some of you might realize, I have only recently begun using FreeBSD (and I still use Linux). FreeBSD _does_ have many system-level advantages to Linux. That said, does FreeBSD run Linux's DosEmu? So what do you do if you want to run Duke Nukem, or Terminal Velocity. Pcemu wont run em.. if you run FreeBSD, you boot to DOS. If you're in Linux, you boot DosEmu. Now, this really has nothing to do with FreeBSD, as much as it does with FreeBSD _support_ .. for the average guy who wants to learn Unix or is just tired of Microsoft products, then I recommend Linux. Why? Because there is more support for it. This average guy isnt a power user, he isnt gonna want to mess around with Linux emulation any more than he has to.. I can tell you, if I called Wolfram Research and said "I'm having trouble with my Linux copy of Mathematica" I wont get as good support as if I was using it for Windows or Solaris or something. This is just a fact of life. Now call them as say "I cant get Mathematica for Linux to run under Linux emulation in FreeBSD" .. if they just hang up consider yourself lucky. This is just a cold, harsh reality. I dont particularly like it myself. I am an eclectic type guy. Right now, for instance, I'm using a Macintosh for some graphics work, with a telnet session to my Linux and FreeBSD boxes, along with a few X apps from the Linux system. I'd _prefer_ to see Apple do well and get lots of good stuff out there for the Mac.. and I'd prefer to see FreeBSD and Linux forge ahead and become dominant forces in the Unix market. Unfortunately, however, this probably wont happen. Apple is gonna die, I think.. and chances are FreeBSD and Linux wont be dominant.. this is life.. I dont remember the Big Guy telling me it would be fair. > All Linux people, Flame me, but this Will NOT change the > TRUTH. (if interested in comparisons, there are some URLs). Instead of all the rabble rousing, I'd suggest getting Emacs out and directing some energy into _code_ good, portable code that'll strengthen the *BSD's, and, heaven forbid, Linux too. The Cypherpunk's have a saying "Cypherpunk's write code." At first, I just read over this little gem, but time and again it has proven to be one of the wisest things that has grown out of the net.. > ALL hats off for the FreeBSD TEAM. Agreed! And, while I'm at it, here's a shout out to the Wine guys, Apple developers, the cypherpunks, and yeah.. the Linux guys too. They _all_ have given us some rather awesome gifts. ismene:/usr/src/linux$ cat `find` | wc -l 893089 Be humble, or write the code. Michael Graffam (mgraffam@mhv.net) http://www.mhv.net/~mgraffam - Religion, Philosophy, Computers, etc "Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-incurred immaturity. Immaturity is the inability to use one's own understanding without the guidance of another. . .Sapere aude! Have the courage to use your own understanding!" - Immanuel Kant "What is Enlightenment?"