Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 09:17:54 -0600 From: Chad Perrin <perrin@apotheon.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Android (Re: 2020: Will BSD and Linux be relevant anymore?) Message-ID: <20110724151754.GA82266@guilt.hydra> In-Reply-To: <20110724074846.GA15740@tinyCurrent> References: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1107190736560.27391@gwdu60.gwdg.de> <CAGy-%2Bi_phtNbTh7SHhockqTuGrv%2Bd2ZLn0_6A9aKEySYO0MgTw@mail.gmail.com> <375e5bcac1acd4b781ef97bd1718e689.squirrel@www.magehandbook.com> <CAGy-%2Bi_aS4U_yUSLcesjyeCj2PBOL4A=UzXvYYKF1SqujN5vsg@mail.gmail.com> <D1A05C81F0C50B3453441AAB@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> <20110721161356.GI5129@think.gnix.co.uk> <20110721165801.GC69370@guilt.hydra> <4e2c2125.yS7H/hVUm1ebTrPE%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20110724074846.GA15740@tinyCurrent>
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--KsGdsel6WgEHnImy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 09:48:46AM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El d=EDa Sunday, July 24, 2011 a las 06:41:57AM -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.= com escribi=F3: > > Chad Perrin <perrin@apotheon.com> wrote: > > > > > > If Android actually exposed more of the Linux underpinnings > > > it might be somewhat useful to me ... > >=20 > > There _is_ a development kit. I have no idea what-all is involved > > in setting it up, but if someone were sufficiently motivated it > > would presumably be possible to develop an app to provide access > > to bash (and thence any other desired command-line tools). >=20 > Why do you want to use the closed Android if there is an OpenSource, > Linux based cellphone, having shell, X11, GPS, GPRS, Wifi, USB ethernet, > x11vnc, ... etc. >=20 > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page > http://www.unixarea.de/openmoko.txt I considered that. Unfortunately, it does not suffice. The OpenMoko project suffers some pretty significant hardware issues -- such as, in some cases, lack of necessary hardware to achieve anything close to functionality parity with common Android devices. It does not even provide G3 access, which is a minimal piece of functionality for a smartphone to be worth having, according to my preferences at least. I wish circumstances were different. I would much prefer something like OpenMoko if it provided what I needed. I would even accept a slightly slower processor, no accelerometer, no GPS, and several other shortcomings compared to the hardware in my current Android smartphone, but the lack of G3 support -- especially in combination to some hardware quality issues that have come up for several people I know who have OpenMoko devices mouldering in drawers right now -- ensures it is not worth my while to spend real money on one. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk4sN6EACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXxbwCgzXJoI93QRTNv0vNc8VPS80nO TfMAoJuCiK7o4x06KFmKcM9ihKvCeKYK =YF6u -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy--
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