From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Feb 15 10:14:57 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56AE6255B36 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 2020 10:14:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from sonic302-20.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic302-20.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [87.248.110.83]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48KR2802Ywz446s for ; Sat, 15 Feb 2020 10:14:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) X-YMail-OSG: _hHeosUVM1m4JpFhcVtTFt2HDElRzzR4TWio0ZD.ZaTSCWhlIGt1wGFpwqrCzQ2 Db5gnNvtFjapQLYEnO8Vb7uNiE9zqrlELAYosSvEI3uoK8n_yPJW.cc0y0fB5mwGoQ4zwXHLuow. uroKFHwE1QNKaASD1gvOqIAAZgZhtDI7uSlc_q4bApninl7NwWpewPbtjKZ2C.VO4ibi0VqZBIiF 1MKa5nRyn1NVkgkAKcRFKny61QJRWeMgBf5uDzjxVAtvSmsNP5VpJVKlBAeXEJjl7X5IcHNmdMv5 fb5XJP8o_WVRRxkI3PQXWAb26wJJe65kzlb3afTai02HfZ3LH25qTWEqSDklDO8sYW3zpIrs7Nc4 oLANTE9t9qYCfVlPWcbVMlgczjLk_eMEY3OxMWLP4zlU5Vaka203mpg00VDRJVp3f1VkEOHUPKAh _xwM_bkV0JGmoWjWee0i25pInS6oMnfd2H1uyP2KJis42jWQVuDL.HwfA9XbAKRhMcu2KNtIzm2T KmDQzd_wkkYUoBdxn9iqwYq61jrYQR7cUudCTwoHJRaZBfFUUmNMY1SH92Rvy9erASMtfiawJQ5R 0EVBBhmFRlZaExSu_UA_qNhoOnW54pTuxn0UZfUrRJ.44q1kE2Obj8A9zVyEWfpEnkfrwYtWCsIW .tF2GWHXTFvsE57faJ4B824IgJ9qlWTmCLe04gzdxj6neVP.3TM3kx5tSBRyKHLZOjES9ljZkV18 UfmfXP13o4I.szP4eaacKqERr2ZIaf5HaDCfERa7i3cUNQZZNzWgrDwqhNAu_zNFD3cgMUFdTz4x 13ejsnmCrT1O4Fi0GXuRC63Br6kAa.VVJYpZRagQXvM18BqCmKH7WX0Y.s3jayAtDPcnKIIwpFez fl2Gr4W4SGdIwCw0hBP9UFKRTHpN5pN6235e93rRkV2PO.qyOB1Lm9dOvFPx_o53YjSVAgIGleP6 oRAoLIAb5k0GQzyv02AsS8oTqu94ctcuqHTegzZasQi8Km92Hr4jR3eXGFgdBxY8U2bIiLx0AFc. gSbZQhhoq0.bwUFZWPCkpBwBqlB2pT.ycWFOTLnUioeuAYbm5_B8BBlZWUjmiI6JVYu0oXL9Y7uK NoD6EURwXeZyvL.xVYXLCwCi7zJPKsrPfX3IHUrxyCzttLV03uBCDGKIjhlUBXbVU1Nl9yUSQ_gO d5swL9fZxe.IhT1fZ84JABkJ3dXvnLeFQSs0bgauVmDMUnW8FJiZ2wjmncUTEUPNeHoo5B5npt.Q DTe_ewvHvrA7wx7biAmedllgAL4NwJvs5troAaOPlUv4En0zSJ0N9WPEeaLXsu0yjGj4cywCzEIL 8RmLA8JvipWe6uaPCX1TN.E6UoSP0mlMequ4zi.JBhbr9z.g3ITd28mjJ5Y7t9Yh1iyQTHBgtcKA tdnUYC2ZBVswm Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic302.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sat, 15 Feb 2020 10:14:53 +0000 Received: by smtp431.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 99219dcfd76c9c62495c6aabf6e9d3a9; Sat, 15 Feb 2020 10:14:48 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2020 11:14:46 +0100 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Technological advantages over Linux Message-ID: <20200215111446.464284f0@moonstudio> In-Reply-To: <20200215104341.2d39afc1@moonstudio> References: <20200214121620.GA80657@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200214204135.97b7d3b0.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200215065641.GG1482@admin.sibptus.ru> <202002151033.23196.dr.klepp@gmx.at> <20200215104341.2d39afc1@moonstudio> X-Mailer: Claws Mail (linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48KR2802Ywz446s X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.61 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.52)[-0.523,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rocketmail.com:s=s2048]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.60)[-0.601,0]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rocketmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rocketmail.com,reject]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[83.110.248.87.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (6.52), ipnet: 87.248.110.0/24(2.35), asn: 34010(1.70), country: GB(-0.07)]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[83.110.248.87.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34010, ipnet:87.248.110.0/24, country:GB]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2020 10:14:57 -0000 On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 10:43:41 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 10:33:23 +0100, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: >>Anno domini 2020 Sat, 15 Feb 13:56:41 +0700 >> Victor Sudakov scripsit: >>> Polytropon wrote: >>> > >>> > Additionally, there's systemd-homed to re-invent home directories. >>> > I'm not sure if there will be systemd-linuxd and systemd-kerneld >>> > to re-invent everything else. ;-) >>> >>> "Among the items being explored by systemd-homed are JSON-based user >>> records," >>> >>> What's next, systemd-registryd? >> >>IMO that has already been implemented in GNOME3. > >That's utter nonsense. The dark humour of Linux soon or later suffering >from a systemd-registryd, referring to MS Windows, has absolutely >nothing to do with dconf/gsettings, let alone that FreeBSD as well as >Linux users suffer from dconf/gsettings when using bloatware such as >GNOME. Btw. before dconf, gconf already was present. This bloatware >nonsense isn't new and not related to the used operating system. PS: How to make something simple very complicated: http://gnome-evolution-general.1774414.n4.nabble.com/Show-Hide-Evolution-Menu-Bar-tt4666046.html#a4666047 However, this does affect FreeBSD as well as Linux and is completely unrelated to the used init system. GNOME probably requires tons of services started by systemd-units on Linux, but the same services needs to be started on FreeBSD, too. The culprit isn't systemd, it's neither FreeBSD or Linux.