From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 11 22:40:31 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 284AFBD6C8F for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2016 22:40:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5DAD794 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2016 22:40:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from [76.181.114.47] ([76.181.114.47:49021] helo=raspberrypi.bildanet.com) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 9C/05-14796-A1DD5D75; Sun, 11 Sep 2016 22:39:23 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.40] (helo=baho-utot.bildanet.com) by raspberrypi.bildanet.com with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1bjDPG-0002M3-Fd for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Sep 2016 18:39:22 -0400 Subject: Re: YIKES! I am going to need some help References: <26ad38a5-e7cf-feeb-a4b1-a66cddc38ec1@columbus.rr.com> <20160911204639.GB24973@neutralgood.org> To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" From: Baho Utot Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 18:39:22 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160911204639.GB24973@neutralgood.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.130:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 22:40:31 -0000 On 09/11/16 16:46, Kevin P. Neal wrote: > On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 10:41:45AM -0400, Baho Utot wrote: >> I want to rebuild all my home computers now based upon FreeBSD 10.x. >> >> I would like to use version 11.0 Stable or Release. > Well, now, which is it? If you go the Release route then you don't need > to rebuild world or kernel. I am waiting for 11.x to come off RCs, then I will choose. If it doesn't do that soon ( been waiting 4 months now), then I will go STABLE and use crochet to build for Raspberry pi. I want to update this desktop first in case I make a mess of it. Just don't know how the move ZFS Raid-Z will turn out. > > Also, if you use packages then you don't need /usr/ports, and you don't > need to worry about building things. Just install them. It may be that > building from ports is the right thing for you, but you haven't mentioned > any reasons for going that route yet. I want to build the whole thing lock stock and barrel, ports too. Put the repository on a network and update all machines from there. Want to use synth or pouderier (sp?) > > That right there are two simplifications you can make to your setup. > > I suggest starting simple. Make things more complicated only when you > require it. I am a glutton for punishment, What can I say. > >> Can I use clang and LLVM? Ditching ld? > On the i386 and amd64 architectures clang+llvm has already replaced > gcc. So nothing to do there. Yes I was following that part > As for the llvm.org version of ld, I > believe that isn't quite as far along. Is there a specific reason why > you need to change which ld is used? > I would like to goto llvm ld so I don't have to do this again. I am rebuilding my entire network and want to have all the machines using the same base and ports. I will have two raspberrypi that handle DNS, NTP, NNTP and email ( full email server exim and dovcot2 plus fetchmail ) Right now this is on an old Dell lapdog using jails I have a third raspberrypi 3 that I will try to run ningx (sp?), when FreeBSD goes pi 3. Thanks