From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 27 07:15:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4A8B1065678 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 07:15:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp-gs.math.arizona.edu (math051.cs.arizona.edu [150.135.82.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38FE13C4FF for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 07:15:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp-gs.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JUGVh-000786-QY for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:15:29 -0700 Received: from 71-220-154-220.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.154.220] helo=.domain.actdsltmp) by smtp-gs.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JUGVa-00077N-EX; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:15:18 -0700 Message-ID: <47C50E03.5030501@math.arizona.edu> Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:15:15 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070916) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ACL-Warn: The HELO/EHLO greeting .domain.actdsltmp is invalid X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) Cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway , Oliver Herold , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 07:15:30 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Kris Kennaway >> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 12:18 PM >> To: Oliver Herold; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; >> freebsd-performance@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7 >> >> >> Oliver Herold wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I saw this bind benchmarks just some minutes ago, >>> >>> http://new.isc.org/proj/dnsperf/OStest.html >>> >>> is this true for FreeBSD 7 (current state: RELENG_7/7.0R) too? Or is >>> this something verified only for the state of development back in August >>> 2007? >>> >> I have been trying to replicate this. ISC have kindly given me access >> to their test data but I am seeing Linux performing much slower than >> FreeBSD with the same ISC workload. >> >> > > Kris, > > Every couple years we go through this with ISC. They come out with > a new version of BIND then claim that nothing other than Linux can > run it well. I've seen this nonsense before and it's tiresome. > > Incidentally, the query tool they used, queryperf, has been changed > to dnsperf. Someone needs to look at that port - /usr/ports/dns/dnsperf - > as it has a build depend of bind9 - well bind 9.3.4 is part of 6.3-RELEASE > and I was rather irked when I ran the dnsperf port maker and the > maker stupidly began the process of downloading and building the > same version of BIND that I was already running on my server. > > >> * I am trying to understand what is different about the ISC >> configuration but have not yet found the cause. >> > > It's called "Anti-FreeBSD bias". You won't find anything. > > You just described the tests up to isomorphism in the terminology of mathematics which is more familiar subject to me :-) The results of OpenBSD has been discussed and analyzed on the misc.at.openbsd.org. Even to a hobbyist like myself was not clear why did they chose to test OpenBSD 4.1 when only in two month the stable version of OpenBSD will be 4.3. For those unfamiliar performance of OpenBSD 4.2 as a DNS server has been dramatically improved from the 4.1 version. The question of multi-threading (no-no in OpenBSD world) and its role in above results was also analyzed. >> e.g. NSD >> (ports/dns/nsd) is a much faster and more scalable DNS server than BIND >> (because it is better optimized for the smaller set of features it >> supports). >> >> > > When you make remarks like that it's no wonder ISC is in the business > of slamming FreeBSD. People used to make the same claims about djbdns > but I noticed over the last few years they don't seem to be doing > that anymore. > > If nsd is so much better than yank bind out of the base FreeBSD and > replace it with nsd. Of course that will make more work for me > when I regen our nameservers here since nsd will be the first thing > on the "rm" list. > > I sincerely hope for the above. Hopefully Ted finally can buy that Mercedes to his wife which she deserves so much ;-) . Cheers, Predrag > Ted > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >