From owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Tue Sep 27 12:45:25 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6442ABEAC9B for ; Tue, 27 Sep 2016 12:45:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 535BC25F; Tue, 27 Sep 2016 12:45:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [134.153.27.124] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C53571955; Tue, 27 Sep 2016 12:45:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan@FreeBSD.org) From: "Jonathan Anderson" To: "Matthew Macy" Cc: "Kevin Oberman" , "Mark Linimon" , "freebsd-x11@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: gfx-next update: drm-4.8-rc2 tagged in drm-next Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 10:15:26 -0230 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1576a3129d6.df449a6798184.3431483148132229583@nextbsd.org> References: <439e20fa-6385-68fb-c97e-24705ebd2f94@nomadlogic.org> <157496f7268.ac5eb5ca278618.8741026532558973404@nextbsd.org> <3FEE7DD3-C408-4398-9F0B-5529B2E7A61F@transactionware.com> <1574b8980bc.106a6e9ef306540.4216158444646545056@nextbsd.org> <20160926192637.33f7921b@azsupport.com> <157683d1ec0.11a09775b76996.945490951353894015@nextbsd.org> <20160927031041.31b6f90a@azsupport.com> <157693fc60a.ebf27bd286215.2625530085502855667@nextbsd.org> <20160927033819.2670e3f1@azsupport.com> <20160927015534.GA1345@lonesome.com> <1576a3129d6.df449a6798184.3431483148132229583@nextbsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Mailer: MailMate (1.9.5r5263) X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 12:45:25 -0000 On 27 Sep 2016, at 3:19, Matthew Macy wrote: > So long as 99% of people are duly respectful of the fact that this has > been a great deal of work and that there is more work that lies ahead > we'll be fine. I, for one, am very grateful for this work and try to help with testing where I can. For the past couple of years I've wanted to recommend FreeBSD to students and the people who manage our computer labs, but the lack of support for contemporary graphics was a real blocker while I've Linux uptake grow by leaps and bounds. Thanks to Matt's work, I'm now running FreeBSD on a recent notebook rather than VMs or old hardware from eBay. i915 on drm-next-4.7 has become quite stable and reliable, to the point where I'd recommend it to students escaping Windows once it lands in a release (12.0?). FreeBSD grew out of a university context, and I think that we need university students using it and hacking on it to generate new developers, new companies, etc. Jon -- Jonathan Anderson jonathan@FreeBSD.org