From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 4 01:07:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 11E833DD; Sun, 4 May 2014 01:07:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu (i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu [128.104.255.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D26A019C3; Sun, 4 May 2014 01:07:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF861F8044; Sat, 3 May 2014 20:07:31 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at icecube.wisc.edu Received: from i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10030) with ESMTP id S8j2UB1cz2Lj; Sat, 3 May 2014 20:07:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from comporellon.tachypleus.net (polaris.tachypleus.net [75.101.50.44]) by i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 374401F803C; Sat, 3 May 2014 20:07:30 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <536592D1.7080403@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 03 May 2014 18:07:29 -0700 From: Nathan Whitehorn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Oberman , Adrian Chadd Subject: Re: Leaving the Desktop Market References: <3F7430D7-3C0F-43E1-8EBD-8AA4F701497C@FreeBSD.org> <20140503155745.GA2457@La-Habana> <20140503192305.GA1847@La-Habana> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "current@freebsd.org" , Matthias Apitz , David Chisnall , Eitan Adler , "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" , Jordan Hubbard X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 May 2014 01:07:38 -0000 On 05/03/14 16:59, Kevin Oberman wrote: > On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: > >> Set it to the lowest available Cx state that you see in dev.cpu.0 . >> >> > Available is not required. Set it to C8. That guarantees that you will use > the lowest available. The correct incantation in rc.conf is "Cmax". > performance_cx_lowest="Cmax" > economy_cx_lowest="Cmax" > > But, unless you want laggy performance, you will probably also want: > hint.p4tcc.0.disabled=1 > hint.acpi_throttle.0.disabled=1 > in /boot/loader.conf. Low Cx states and TCC/throttling simply don't mix > well and TCC is not effective, as mentioned earlier in this thread. Is there any reason that TCC is on by default, actually? It seems like an anti-feature. -Nathan