From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 7 05:53:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB7D51065673 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 05:53:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 886978FC16 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 05:53:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n775LW68039144; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 22:21:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 22:21:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 22:21:55 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Erich Dollansky Message-ID: <20090807052155.GB84152@thought.org> References: <20090806060406.A64083@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> <200908070817.21456.erich@apsara.com.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200908070817.21456.erich@apsara.com.sg> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports completely and permanently hosed X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 05:53:30 -0000 On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 08:17:20AM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On 06 August 2009 pm 19:10:07 Lars Eighner wrote: > > > > Would these things build if I deleted all 1619 installed > > packages and started from scratch, or are the circular gotchas > > built-in with python and qt? > > do not even ask this question if you have a working system. > > I realised this problem by luck when I tried to update a single > program which is affected by this. After seeing how many ports > depend on this, I decided to keep my system as it is and wait > until FreeBSD 8 is officially out. > > I will then do a full upgrade. > > I think that you hit the weakest point of FreeBSD. When a version > number of a base port changes, hundreds or even thousands of > ports have to be recompiled. It is basically the same effect as > when the major version number of FreeBSD changes. > > If this would be synchronised with the main FreeBSD releases, it > would have a minor effect on users. > > Erich AFAIC, Erich's words could be printed in gold. Or cast in gold and hung above every FBSD installation. If just this stuff--keeping current-- were made push-button, man, that would make my year. Or century. (*****) gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 5.67a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php