From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 17 01:56:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 071E916A4CE; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 01:56:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za (zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84FC043D1D; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 01:56:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhay@zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za) Received: from zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i1H9u0pQ035349; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 11:56:01 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from jhay@zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za) Received: (from jhay@localhost)i1H9u0fu035348; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 11:56:00 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from jhay) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 11:56:00 +0200 From: John Hay To: Vallo Kallaste Message-ID: <20040217095600.GA34847@zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za> References: <20040213130520.GB714@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> <20040216092232.GA1632@kevad.internal> <20040216231455.GQ33797@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20040217092059.GA1352@kevad.internal> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040217092059.GA1352@kevad.internal> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: Greg 'groggy' Lehey cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't save Vinum config: No such file or directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 09:56:20 -0000 > > > > I don't know, but I haven't heard anything to the contrary. But then, > > Vinum mirroring is also stable. Note that the message to which you > > reply is based on a misunderstanding. The issue here seems to be > > finger trouble at startup, and that can happen with ccd as well. > > Yes. Perhaps vinum is stable, but kernels past 5.2-RELEASE did > sometimes panic in vinum at bootup (for me). 5.2-RELEASE kernel > simply didn't boot with mirrored /usr filesystem. I will try the > upcoming 5.2.x if ready, but until then I'm still with Dec 21 kernel > which works reliably. I am not pointing to vinum at all, there has > been lots of other changes. > But as I need _reliable_ mirrored /usr, vinum seems to be out of > game again. Interesting, maybe the problem is not general but tied to specific hardware or setups? I have 3 machines all with at least /usr, /var and /home on vinum without seeing vinum problems: ####################################### marge# uname -a FreeBSD marge.icomtek.csir.co.za 5.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.2-RELEASE #0: Sun Jan 11 04:21:45 GMT 2004 root@wv1u.btc.adaptec.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 marge# mount /dev/vinum/root on / (ufs, local) devfs on /dev (devfs, local) /dev/vinum/usr on /usr (ufs, local) /dev/vinum/var on /var (ufs, local) marge# uptime 11:45AM up 27 days, 22:29, 2 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00 marge# ####################################### dolphin# uname -a FreeBSD dolphin.icomtek.csir.co.za 5.2-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT #4: Tue Jan 6 09:56:06 SAST 2004 jhay@dolphin.icomtek.csir.co.za:/export/obj/usr/src/sys/DOLPHIN i386 dolphin# mount /dev/ad0s1a on / (ufs, local) devfs on /dev (devfs, local) /dev/vinum/var on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/vinum/usr on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/vinum/home on /home (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/vinum/export on /export (ufs, local, nosuid, soft-updates) procfs on /proc (procfs, local) devfs on /dev (devfs, local) devfs on /dev (devfs, local) /dev/acd0 on /cdrom (cd9660, local, read-only) dolphin# uptime 11:45AM up 35 days, 23:16, 32 users, load averages: 0.58, 0.73, 0.73 dolphin# ####################################### zibbi:~ > uname -a FreeBSD zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za 5-20040129-CURRENT FreeBSD 5-20040129-CURRENT #0: Thu Jan 29 09:44:51 GMT 2004 root@builder.icomtek.csir.co.za:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 zibbi:~ > mount /dev/ad0s1a on / (ufs, local) devfs on /dev (devfs, local) /dev/vinum/var on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/vinum/usr on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/vinum/home on /home (ufs, local, soft-updates) zibbi:~ > uptime 11:45AM up 11 days, 22:39, 7 users, load averages: 0.15, 0.11, 0.14 zibbi:~ > ####################################### One is pure IDE, one pure SCSI and one a IDE SCSI mix. PS. I know there are sometimes other problems with vinum, like when PKH changes APIs faster than the rest can keep up with, and I'm not talking about those problems. John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@icomtek.csir.co.za / jhay@FreeBSD.org