From owner-cvs-all Tue Sep 24 14:28:36 2002 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FB5537B401; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 14:28:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.208.78.105]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E837E43E97; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 14:28:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8OLSU4m020905; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 14:28:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g8OLSUiQ020904; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 14:28:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 14:28:30 -0700 From: Steve Kargl To: Peter Wemm Cc: "Andrey A. Chernov" , Poul-Henning Kamp , Julian Elischer , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libncurses Makefile Message-ID: <20020924212830.GA20830@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <20020924211110.GB61277@nagual.pp.ru> <20020924212009.77BDF2A7D6@canning.wemm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020924212009.77BDF2A7D6@canning.wemm.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 02:20:09PM -0700, Peter Wemm wrote: > "Andrey A. Chernov" wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 14:05:38 -0700, Peter Wemm wrote: > > > > > > This particular "feature" is going to cause a *huge* amount of pain. > > > I wouldn't be suprised if it costs us anouther 500-1000 unbuldable ports. > > > > For ports we MUST set _POSIX2_VERSION=199209 in the bsd.port.mk > > No, this is the equivalent of sticking our heads in the sand and pretending > that we dont have a problem. The Real World consists of much more than > the ports tree. The problems that the ports tree has are the only indication > that we have about how the rest of the Real World code will fare with > our releases. > > Turn off the silly feature in sort(1) the first place. Let people request > it by setting _POSIX2_VERSION=200112 if they want to sort a filename that > begins with a +. Or, use 'sort ./+file' like they would already have to > do for just about every other unix OS on the planet. > If we turn off posix in sort(1) to permit " sort +1", then should we add warnx("The sort +pos -pos syntax is deprecated."); to educate the masses. -- Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message