From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 02:17:57 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0061C16A420; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:17:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (pointyhat.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::2b]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF5413C45B; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:17:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <473A5AD5.60208@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:17:57 +0100 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Julian Elischer References: <473A4570.9020908@FreeBSD.org> <473A4E5E.3080404@elischer.org> In-Reply-To: <473A4E5E.3080404@elischer.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: julian@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Loss of detail from kthreads X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:17:57 -0000 Julian Elischer wrote: > if you want that done by default someway then let's hear > what you'd like to do.. Basically there are a lot of places where the information about kernel threads is now hidden when before it wss in plain sight. I don't think this serves any purpose; you might argue it is "tidier" to collapse large numbers of kernel threads into generic containers with obscure names like "intr" [*], but this is at the expense of conveying up front the useful information from the individual threads. I'm basically requesting that the places that display kproc names be converted to instead default to displaying kthreads, without having to remember to add weird new command options (i.e. invocation of POLA). Kris [*] why the abbreviated name? Surely we can spare an extra 5 bytes :)