From owner-freebsd-arm@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 25 22:29:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B296D4A3 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 22:29:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pb0-f50.google.com (mail-pb0-f50.google.com [209.85.160.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A4C22E8B for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 22:29:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pb0-f50.google.com with SMTP id rr13so6707840pbb.37 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 14:29:01 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:mime-version:content-type:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to; bh=tmpmx1e+f0j893icmZPuAa4SwIlhniqD5qz2LwqUYNs=; b=B9vHeO8VCpfEnVrlPo8h2HDuONN/eD9SNV12ZX7ew065n299z2UB83gkMhzMsNYGAB 8L+Yg7hAwIjwtlbFq2anIWLXncNrHXU/qjkAAnMi5HpIyJApTNi+KQp9KQoYBEN2SUAT rcp3QbTdRnirotKITxUR7ybaOMhbQ2i3e9lyp4DysjTqrHuRabG7fNE5RseV8jYi9oc5 THTWWmiTi5WL4WoD6Qmd4r0qnYJkDmtuPbOoHAfNJ2smaCLSV+Wt+MrYNkTm/4q/XXs3 QESbc6hHFrZuYka3GBJ0SvGYzwU4cSXm/2c1/MCj7qrHZFX5yx4cZtN2M0TdMbz0xnCK j/LQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlkGZsHnKTKUir0ycbN/qvSOYvnOKrr1D8DccyB74z4/x1SCuAX8RUWHV+nn6oNzJApBFuh X-Received: by 10.68.228.138 with SMTP id si10mr29541175pbc.13.1385418541200; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 14:29:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from 53.imp.bsdimp.com (50-78-194-198-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net. [50.78.194.198]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id rx4sm85794559pab.13.2013.11.25.14.28.59 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 25 Nov 2013 14:29:00 -0800 (PST) Sender: Warner Losh Subject: Re: freebsd-arm description? Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: <41B13191-0D41-4EA8-BBCE-3E6A440EF90A@neville-neil.com> Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 15:26:02 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <47088196-D4BE-4490-A4DA-C4EF6D4A27F3@bsdimp.com> References: <7DCF72F0-4072-46DD-A3F7-F33FC10055E9@neville-neil.com> <1385414670.1220.21.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> <41B13191-0D41-4EA8-BBCE-3E6A440EF90A@neville-neil.com> To: George Neville-Neil X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Cc: freebsd-arm@FreeBSD.org, Ian Lepore , postmaster@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the StrongARM Processor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 22:29:08 -0000 On Nov 25, 2013, at 2:28 PM, George Neville-Neil wrote: >=20 > On Nov 25, 2013, at 16:24 , Ian Lepore wrote: >=20 >> On Mon, 2013-11-25 at 16:07 -0500, George Neville-Neil wrote: >>> On Nov 25, 2013, at 16:05 , Tim Kientzle = wrote: >>>=20 >>>> According to this page: >>>>=20 >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arm >>>>=20 >>>> =93[This mailing list] is for individuals actively working on >>>> porting FreeBSD to the StrongArm Processor.=94 >>>>=20 >>>> How do we change that to something a bit more accurate? >>>> (I=B4ve recently heard from someone who passed over >>>> this mailing list because they didn=B4t think it applied to >>>> more modern ARM processors.) >>>>=20 >>>> Maybe: >>>>=20 >>>> =93This is a technical mailing list for people working to >>>> develop and support FreeBSD on various ARM >>>> processors and SOCs.=94 >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>> +postmaster@ >>>=20 >>> I think they can do this. >>>=20 >>> Best, >>> George >>>=20 >>=20 >> It might be better to say "systems" or "computers" in place of SOCs. >> Our focus historically has been on the chip/SoC, but increasingly ARM >> processors are finding their way into off-the-shelf retail computers. >=20 > I think if we leave off =93and SOCs=94 we=92ll run the correct gamut. You might want to toss 'modern' in front of the processors, since we = mostly talk about that here, with the odd question about legacy things = that have gotten broken. But I'm easy. Warner=