From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 14 15:40:59 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74D7016A420 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:40:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from varga.michal@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 045E113C474 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:40:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from varga.michal@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so1064282nfb for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 08:40:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:organization:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=DX0l3JiD7ryC5mnjfhkpucoabPrtruzIRqrWItnqLiE=; b=sSN0cbROAKIvMVy+y/FILCSWOAa88UC2aAB/wQKcR2RMQbeHQGMwOsBd05vH44R3RMNaEjN7TJ44V90tl3dcsIvLlaqxrVmu/+fJWTS+bNv4FjpnE/0rB+A8Eee91XfSB5Ow97+53Ksw08qEwnGFADiII4YDXsctvmv2qodFZIc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:organization:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=SwnHTgHz9hGvu0yMVL6AVUvpI22H1WaRE+UurPGWlol/+w5tcZ0HaRYK/HvKOeHueUqncUEQdr3TL7Ns/RcyksxnRB7F/2KcTTALTkU0wlOrAKqo/R3tXzpC4pJtNjOXDn8qyjdnlczf0n9vcmHkDkU+BeXbw3CLEKawBaS7zWc= Received: by 10.86.98.18 with SMTP id v18mr4196136fgb.1192376457395; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 08:40:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.0.100.2? ( [89.176.79.57]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c28sm6012883fka.2007.10.14.08.40.53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 14 Oct 2007 08:40:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Michal Varga To: =?UTF-8?Q?=E9=9F=93=E5=AE=B6=E6=A8=99?= Bill Hacker In-Reply-To: <47122FEA.6030400@conducive.net> References: <1192302906.1028.31.camel@xenon.stonehenge.sk> <471122EB.8090906@conducive.net> <200710141314.51326.hselasky@c2i.net> <47122FEA.6030400@conducive.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Organization: Stonehenge Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 17:40:52 +0200 Message-Id: <1192376452.1183.26.camel@xenon.stonehenge.sk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GigaByte GA-MA69VM USB+mouse problem [WAS: AMD690G/V issues with 7-current (sata, usb)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:40:59 -0000 On Sun, 2007-10-14 at 11:04 -0400, 韓家標 Bill Hacker wrote: > The rarity of other similar reports HERE on the list suggest that whatever it > is, it is probably not FreeBSD code. > I'm thinking opposite - it definitely is FreeBSD code (in combination with whatever AMD and/or GigaByte internally do with their USB controller and BIOS). Two facts: 1. This is a really generic low budget A4Tech mouse, I buy this single model for about 5 years, because I love their design (they don't have any) and their functions (they don't have any). I've had them attached everywhere, from Pentium II, PIII, P4, Athlon, AM2 boards and this is the first time the mouse doesn't work. If there was something really special about this particular model, I'd be aware of that for some years already.. 2. Windows 2000 can initialize the mouse without any problems (and with no specific drivers). FreeBSD can do that too, *after* the mouse is plugged in when the OS is already running. I wouldn't argue if this is GigaByte BIOS's fault or not, or if FreeBSD should do something more (or less) during the initialization, this is not my field of expertise. But if this is the case that FreeBSD just refuses to take away control of the device previously initialized by the BIOS and it can be safely done (see Windows 2000), then maybe a systcl for such cases, or at least a quirk would be a nice thing to have. m.