From owner-freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 30 22:39:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4C3416A402 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 22:39:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+kde@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BE5613C44B for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 22:39:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+kde@aldan.algebra.com) Received: (qmail 28811 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2007 22:11:35 -0000 Received: from aldan.algebra.com ([216.254.65.224]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 30 Apr 2007 22:11:35 -0000 Received: from aldan.algebra.com (aldan [127.0.0.1]) by aldan.algebra.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l3UMBYCO037177 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 30 Apr 2007 18:11:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+kde@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by aldan.algebra.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l3UMBX8M037176; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 18:11:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+kde@aldan.algebra.com) From: Mikhail Teterin To: Thomas Dickey Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 18:11:32 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <200704290809.l3T89I55001072@freefall.freebsd.org> <20070430033526.GA66973@svm.csie.ntu.edu.tw> <20070430061658.D84056@mail101.his.com> In-Reply-To: <20070430061658.D84056@mail101.his.com> X-Face: %UW#n0|w>ydeGt/b@1-.UFP=K^~-:0f#O:D7whJ5G_<5143Bb3kOIs9XpX+"V+~$adGP:J|SLieM31VIhqXeLBli" Cc: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org, Rong-En Fan Subject: Re: conf/71254: ncurses: xterm vs. cons* termtypes or sc(4) X-BeenThere: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Bug reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 22:39:37 -0000 On Monday 30 April 2007 06:18, Thomas Dickey wrote: = yes - I recall the conversation (I was pointing out that it is the = expected behavior). Frankly, I don't really accept this explanation. With top -- how can the waste of an entire character column -- considering how hard top otherwise tries to stuff as much information into the screen -- be "normal"? With editors/viewers -- why is a long line no longer a /single/ line (triple-click does not select the entire line), when opened in an ncurses-using editor/viewer?.. Step back from the technical explanations of the current behavior and realize, it is an incorrect one... I can't fix this myself, but I do see a problem. If you continue not to, just close the PR. After all, Linux has the same problem (or, rather, "behavior", since we don't all see a "problem"), so our usual primary incentive for improvement does not exist in this case, does it? -mi