Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:16:53 -0800 From: "Allan Bowhill" <abowhill@blarg.net> To: <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org> Cc: kris@obsecurity.org Subject: Re: Ability for maintainers to update own ports Message-ID: <000f01c3a994$98e42b90$0200000a@io>
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>> The first can be satisfied with something like pkgsrc-wip, and I always >> wondered why we don't have a ports-FRESH and ports-TESTED, like we have >> -CURRENT and -STABLE. >Because even with a single, unbranched ports collection, committers >can't keep it in working order without significant ongoing effort. On >average, several ports become broken on one of the supported >architectures and versions, *each day*. That's not counting the >periodic "cataclysmic events" where hundreds of ports become broken >due to e.g. a change in -current, and not counting errors introduced >in the course of development work on the ports collection >architecture. All the more reason to allow commit access to maintainers of leaf-node ports (ports that do not serve as dependencies to others, particularly multiple ports). How many of these packages are there - about 8000 to 9000? Wouldn't that take a load off committers? Ports that are dependencies of others have a greater need to be kept stable. How many are there - 1000? Just keeping that stabilized sounds like too big a task for committers anyway. >If you start adding more branches to the ports collection, you're >going to multiply the possible failure modes, and the net result will >be that the number of errors accumulating in the ports collection will >more than multiply. If maintainers had access to commit, they could more quickly respond to broken ports. But unless some kind of special tools are made available to allow almost-public access to commit leaf-node ports, they will just sit there in gnats. Maybe a FreeBSD 3rd party developers portal could be created, like "PortsForge" where maintainers and contributor wannabes could polish-up their work and commit it without burdening Gnats. Ports Committers could just scout the site for likely inclusions if they are looking form something new to bring into the official ports tree. --Allan
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