From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 6 19:35:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E0F716A40F for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2006 19:35:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@lariat.net) Received: from lariat.net (lariat.net [65.122.236.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF6044042 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2006 19:20:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.net) Received: from anne-o1dpaayth1.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.net@lariat.net [65.122.236.2]) by lariat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA15281; Wed, 6 Dec 2006 12:08:20 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200612061908.MAA15281@lariat.net> X-message-flag: Warning! Use of Microsoft Outlook renders your system susceptible to Internet worms. X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 11:38:39 -0700 To: Josh Paetzel , Julian Elischer From: Brett Glass In-Reply-To: <200612061153.26040.josh@tcbug.org> References: <6199c3dc0612050848g16a0911dga145485ba14bf21f@mail.gmail.com> <200612060313.23621.josh@tcbug.org> <4576EB9D.2040300@elischer.org> <200612061153.26040.josh@tcbug.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-12F27FC7 Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, Benjamin Adams Subject: Re: Bandwidth Monitoring program X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 19:35:31 -0000 At 10:53 AM 12/6/2006, Josh Paetzel wrote: >He specifically said in his original post that putting a machine >between the router and his lan wasn't an option. His question >was, "Is there a program where I can see whats going on from the >computer on that network?" The answer to that question is, if he's on >a switched network, no. Not without a topology change. Is adding a hub or a bridge a topology change? I'd argue that it wasn't. You can't listen in if you can't connect to the wire. --Brett Glass