Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 03:54:22 -0400 From: "George Ramos" <george@durham.net> To: <ispchat@bell.ca> Cc: <julie.taylor@bell.ca>, <julie.allain@bell.ca>, <marc.morin@bell.ca>, <mike.gosselin@bell.ca>, <joanne.page@bell.ca>, <sherwood.flemming@bell.ca>, <leslie.williams@bell.ca>, <ken.white@bell.ca>, <sheila.ward@bell.ca>, <j.steele@bell.ca>, <anita.archambault@bell.ca>, <f.dubois-beauchamp@bell.ca>, <joelle.picard@bell.ca>, <stephanie.riley@bell.ca>, <diane.cincar@bell.ca>, <list@iip.ca>, <freebsd-isp@freebsd.org>, <caip-members@caip.ca> Subject: Competitor's PRI pricing and stuff that maybe you should all know about or already do.....? Rumors about Bell Xpress View way bills, ADSL pricing, etc. Message-ID: <000f01c206e6$0c43a640$20fea8c0@ddd>
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Hello all: I have taken the liberty of making available to you the following competitor's rates for PRI's. I wonder if anyone can comment in terms of why are Bell's PRI's so much more per month particularly for long term, multi services customers.(I'm referring to customers who have, and still do, spent thousands of dollars per month for the last 7 years)(such as my company) I say this with all due respect for all here with whom I have worked many times in the past, however, it doesn't take away from the fact that there is a SUBSTANTIAL difference in price and I wonder just how does Bell justify that..... Also please note that their installation charge is cut by half on a 2 year contract and WAIVED on a 3 year contract (something which Bell has never been willing to negotiate) (I have always been told that this installation fee cannot be changed, discounted or waived in any way shape or form because it's tariffed).... Aside from that, I will also take the liberty to (in general) let you know that some of us (independent ISP's) are VERY concerned about Bell's practices where it involves high speed Internet. It seems as if from the very beginning, Bell is pricing their ADSL retail services at levels which seem to be designed to eliminate? competition. I am certainly not pointing any fingers here (I can't afford the lawsuits) but I would think that you are all aware of several matters who have (or still are) in front of the CRTC. Anyways, I'm not trying to get into the legalities of this, I guess what I am trying to do is to make you (the group of people who help us, support us, and with whom we work day in and day out)aware of the fact that a number of us (Independent ISP's) are loosing customers every day to Bell because we just can't compete with such ridiculous low rates, giveaways, etc. It would almost make one think about what it is that you guys are going to be doing when there is no more ISP's to support....... Lastly, I have included in this list the two ISP's lists that I belong to because I thought that maybe it's time for everyone to start talking, let's face it, we don't want to be out of business anymore than you guys want to be out of a job so perhaps we can start discussing some of the realities of our everyday working lives. I would like to point out that I speak for myself and not for anyone else and that my comments and/or questions are not of a malicious nature, I am just concerned about the fact that it seems to me there are a number of things which are not as crystal clear as we all expect them to be from an organization as respected as Bell. It also seems to me as if Bell is very aggresively going after the business from which I put food on my family's table, and it seems to me that somehow I have no real means of competing in any kind of fair, levelled playing field..... Any comments will be greatly appreciated. Best regards to you all. I look forward to continue doing business with all of you for as long as I have customers left. George Ramos Durham Net Inc > > > > > > > > > > > These are the Terms and conditions from one of your competitors: > > > > > > 1 Year: $510.00/Month and $700.00 Install. > > > 2 Year: $465.00/Month and $350.00 Install. > > > 3 Year: $425.00/Month and No Install. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message
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