From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 02:24:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C56D716A405 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 02:24:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7646513C4B6 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 02:24:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B335568600DD9; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:31:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ayn.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id p5BeU3918III; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:31:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id 9603C68600DD8; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:31:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:31:03 -0800 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070227023103.GA31729@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <20070226124421.X89345@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45E2E578.4080201@ibctech.ca> <45E2F933.5040707@u.washington.edu> <45E38293.6000403@sonicboom.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45E38293.6000403@sonicboom.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 OpenPKG/2.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 02:24:42 -0000 On Mon, Feb 26, 2007, Brian wrote: >Garrett Cooper wrote: ... >>I honestly do think that MS Outlook complies as well as other IMAP >>clients, just like MS and their IE browser >_>... >> >>For example, the University of Washington has the following for their >>email client page: >>http://www.washington.edu/computing/email/programs.html#configuring , >>and if you note the location of outlook (the bottom) along with the >>information "we don't support this", then maybe you get a hunch about >>how usable Outlook is with IMAP. >> >>The UW uses uw-imap (whatever the latest version is) because they >>develop that mailserver. As you say the U.W. would have a hard time using anything but uw-imap (where do you thing the uw in uw-imap comes from :-). We've been using courier-imap for about seven years now with thousands of users at our ISP customer's sites. One of our first installations was at a local newspaper group, and I had problems at first until I discovered the build option ``--enable-workarounds-for-imap-client-bugs'' which cured the problems with broken Microsoft software (but I repeat myself). Courier-imap uses qmail-style Maildir mail stores which I much prefer to the monolithic files used by uw-imap as they make life generally easier: + The store each message in its own file where the file name consists of a time stamp, sequence, hostname, and status. + This method of storage eliminates all file locking problems so works well with clusters of servers writing and reading e-mail. + There aren't any issues when deleting messages as one has with the single-file stores where the entire file must be rewritten. + Unlike Cyrus-IMAP, which also uses per-file message stores, the Maildir format doesn't have a semi-proprietary database so works well with other Unix tools (e.g. you want to delete all files over thirty days old from a mail store, a command like this works a treat): find ~user/Maildir -mtime +30 | xargs rm Bill -- INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 A fake fortuneteller can be tolerated. But an authentic soothsayer should be shot on sight. Cassandra did not get half the kicking around she deserved. -- R.A. Heinlein