From owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 16 07:45:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31EE316A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2004 07:45:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ldap1.csp.thesmbexchange.com (ldap.boxitllc.com [66.238.112.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E50343D48 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2004 07:45:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from helmut@zeebar.com) Received: (qmail 27863 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2004 00:44:59 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO phred) (helmut@zeebar.com@[24.68.201.28]) (envelope-sender ) by 0 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with RC4-MD5 encrypted SMTP for ; 16 Jun 2004 00:44:59 -0700 Message-ID: <002201c45375$d1beadb0$4501a8c0@phred> From: "Helmut Hissen" To: Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 00:44:56 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: [Thinbsd] Re: ThinBSD with other videodriver X-BeenThere: freebsd-small@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 07:45:45 -0000 yes, disklabel and fdisk can be painful. I found dd if=3D/dev/null = of=3Dour partition/disk useful at times. =20 I did a dependency graph for most of FreeBSD libs, binaries, and etc = files once for a personal project (SlimDevices server) and fit everyhing = including ssh2d, dhclient, and perl, tcl, and most file utilities = stuffed into a few MB kernel using homebrew scripts and crunch. Its really silly how much crap there is on the average system disk, even = in FreeBSD, tho it is much tighter than the others. Kudos to the folks = maintaining the ports and releases since that little project gave me a = whole new appreciations for their ability to deal with dependencies. btw: Perl is a real pain to shrink down and in the end made up the = single largest chunk. Once you pull in perl, you pull in a whole bunch = of more random stuff you will never use. I suggest you use Tcl instead = if you can. cheers hh