From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 26 13:29:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F73F16A420 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 13:29:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kai@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8DFE43D45 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 13:29:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kai@xs4all.nl) Received: from xs6.xs4all.nl (xs6.xs4all.nl [194.109.21.6]) by smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k0QDT7LA069522 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 14:29:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from kai@xs4all.nl) Received: from xs6.xs4all.nl (kai@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xs6.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0QDT7nt058558 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 14:29:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from kai@xs4all.nl) Received: (from kai@localhost) by xs6.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.12.11/Submit) id k0QDT6m1058542 for stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 14:29:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from kai) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 14:29:06 +0100 From: Kai To: stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060126132906.GC59566@xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20060105093220.GJ1358@svcolo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus: Hi! I'm a header virus! Forward this header to your friends to help me spread! X-Morphed: complete X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD Update is the binary update solution [Re: HEADS UP: Release schedule for 2006] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 13:29:10 -0000 On Thu, 5 Jan 2006, Jo Rhett wrote: > > Look around. Every major commercial OS does it just fine. Most of the > open source OSes do it just fine. Debian had probably the easiest to use > system, and they've risen, owned the world and fallen all while FreeBSD has > been debating this issue. > Hello, Another ™.02, Today I'm installing Freebsd 6 from a CD, and I'm having to jump through loops to get it up-to-date. Take for example FreeBSD-SA-06:03.cpio. First I need to install the sources for the complete OS, then run a patch on it, and all that for the installation of 1 measily binary, and then keep track of the fact that I did this. Supplying kernel-source patches is fine, but IMHO there is something really wrong with this. I don't want to be bothered by the hassle of keeping track of which security update I patched in my sourcetree and which not. So, please pretty please make something that lets us admins just download a binary package for an updated cpio, and let something whine if its installed already on a system. Shouldn't be too big a problem to get this done in 2006, rpm could do the job, apt-get would suffice too? Regards, Kai -- begin 600 .signature