From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 7 12:05:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CCE716A41F; Sat, 7 Jan 2006 12:05:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (tim.des.no [194.63.250.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B18643D60; Sat, 7 Jan 2006 12:05:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spam.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C0BF20A9; Sat, 7 Jan 2006 13:05:13 +0100 (CET) X-Spam-Tests: AWL,BAYES_00,FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Learn: ham X-Spam-Score: -3.2/3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on tim.des.no Received: from xps.des.no (des.no [80.203.243.180]) by tim.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DC8F20A8; Sat, 7 Jan 2006 13:05:13 +0100 (CET) Received: by xps.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5833A33C3E; Sat, 7 Jan 2006 13:05:13 +0100 (CET) To: Jo Rhett References: <43A266E5.3080103@samsco.org> <43AB1E65.2030501@mac.com> <20051222221202.GM39174@svcolo.com> <200512231136.12471.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <20060105092448.GH1358@svcolo.com> <20060105184147.GD69162@funkthat.com> <20060106110318.GF54324@svcolo.com> From: des@des.no (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?=) Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 13:05:13 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20060106110318.GF54324@svcolo.com> (Jo Rhett's message of "Fri, 6 Jan 2006 03:03:18 -0800") Message-ID: <86irsw1bwm.fsf@xps.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, current Subject: Re: Fast releases demand binary updates.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 12:05:42 -0000 Jo Rhett writes: > On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 10:41:47AM -0800, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > > Bottom line: Once code exists, then support can be talked about.. > This is the chicken and egg problem that will kill FreeBSD. So *you're* the AC that keeps predicting the death of *BSD on /.! > I don't bother writing up patches for FreeBSD because every time I > do they sit in a PR and get ignored for several years. Then someone > that does have commit rights makes their own patch (which often is > less useful) but they own it and the best I've ever succeeded at was > convincing them to put some of the ideas from my patch into their > code. Every single time? There are five PRs with your name on in GNATS (assuming you and are one and same) ports/76013 - patch committed after four months ports/76019 - superceded after a month ports/76041 - duplicate of ports/76013 ports/76724 - patch committed after a week docs/87445 - immediately adopted by a committer, being worked on Oh, how we have wronged you! Please let us know how we may correct this grievous injustice! DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav - des@des.no