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Tue, 17 Sep 2024 04:45:53 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Waitman Gobble Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 07:45:41 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Suggestions for mail client To: Andrea Venturoli Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000004fbf5406224f3b58" X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.54 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.54)[-0.538]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20230601]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; 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of course I > could try them all, but it would take days of work. > So I'm asking here for a suggestion... > > > What I absolutely need: > _ close to perfect IMAP support; > _ IMAP tags/labels; > _ multiple accounts: I've got more than 50, although I use less than 10 > daily and I could leave the other 40 in ThunderBird for occasional use; > _ online only/no local storage (for some accounts) *and* local cached > messages (for others); > _ support for big folders (in the GBs size and or 10k messages); > _ CardDAV support; > _ good searching; > _ performance, stability, future support, etc... > > What I'd like: > _ newsgroups support; > _ RSS; > _ CalDAV (these three I could eventually achieve with other programs, > still...): > _ possibly not locking in into some desktop environment (currently I use > XFCE); > _ ability to read HTML mail (altough I never write such a thing). > > What I don't care about: > _ message filters; > _ antispam (as I manage them both server side); > _ "modern" interface. > > Any hint? > > bye & Thanks > av. > > I've tried most if not all email clients, nothing is faster in processing for me than round cube (yes it's web based) I use sieve to autoprocess/file many emails, especially from lists. mail/roundcube mail/dovecot-sieve --=20 Waitman Gobble --0000000000004fbf5406224f3b58 Content-Type: text/html; 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On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 5:45=E2=80=AF= AM Andrea Venturoli <ml@netfence.it> wrote:
Hel= lo.

I've been a progressively unhappier ThunderBird user for almost the las= t
20 years; the upgrade to 115 brough a general slowness (with specific
big troubles in some areas), but I resisted.
Unfortunately 128 is truly unusable: moving from one folder to another
or from one message to another takes seconds (so just skimming the
messages on FreeBSD mailing lists is now taking tenfolds the time it did until a week ago), resizing the message pane takes about 5 seconds,
marking 50 messages as read takes close to one minute, etc...).

Don't get me wrong, I still like ThunderBird (altough with a lot of criticism), but unless there's a compiler switch (LTO?) or something else that can bring TB back to the speed it had a couple of years ago,
it's time to move on to something else.



In the port tree I see Evolution, Geary, KMail, Sylpheed and possibly
others I might have missed.
I read several comparison but came up with no clear winner; of course I could try them all, but it would take days of work.
So I'm asking here for a suggestion...


What I absolutely need:
_ close to perfect IMAP support;
_ IMAP tags/labels;
_ multiple accounts: I've got more than 50, although I use less than 10=
daily and I could leave the other 40 in ThunderBird for occasional use;
_ online only/no local storage (for some accounts) *and* local cached
messages (for others);
_ support for big folders (in the GBs size and or 10k messages);
_ CardDAV support;
_ good searching;
_ performance, stability, future support, etc...

What I'd like:
_ newsgroups support;
_ RSS;
_ CalDAV (these three I could eventually achieve with other programs,
still...):
_ possibly not locking in into some desktop environment (currently I use XFCE);
_ ability to read HTML mail (altough I never write such a thing).

What I don't care about:
_ message filters;
_ antispam (as I manage them both server side);
_ "modern" interface.

Any hint?

=C2=A0 bye & Thanks
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 av.


I've tried most if not all em= ail clients, nothing is faster in processing for me than round cube (yes it= 's web based) I use sieve to autoprocess/file many emails, especially f= rom lists.
mail/roundcube
mail/dovecot-sieve
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