From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 27 07:27:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41BDD1065670 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 07:27:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B16FC13C4D3 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 07:27:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl55-206.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.182.206]) (authenticated bits=0) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id m1R7QdXX023972; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 09:26:45 +0200 Received: by kobe.laptop (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8E94322802; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 09:26:38 +0200 (EET) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 09:26:38 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Ted Mittelstaedt Message-ID: <20080227072638.GA2848@kobe.laptop> References: <20080226053256.GB3515@kobe.laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.973, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.43, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Daniel Jennings , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Open source quiry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 07:27:06 -0000 On 2008-02-26 22:53, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>On 2008-02-26 11:33, Daniel Jennings wrote: >>> Hello, >>> Recently I was told that 2wire dsl gateways http://www.2wire.com use >>> a variant of rt FreeBSD. >> >> The FreeBSD license allows reuse of the source code. In fact, this >> is one of the stated goals of the project. `To provide a modern UNIX >> system, with no strings attached.' >> >> > If this is true are they required to make the source code available >> > to the public? And if so how does one go about getting the GPL >> > source >> >> Not necessarily. Depending on how meticulous they have been in their >> efforts to properly compartmentalize their own stuff, the BSD license >> allows commercial reuse of the source code. > > The BSD license allows commercial reuse of the code with no > requirement to disclose modifications, and no requirement to > "compartmentalize" > > The GPL license is what your probably thinking on the > "compartmentalize" thing, and the GPL zealots modify the GPL on a > regular basis to make whatever "compartmentalization" schemes that > people work out, impossible. > > Pretty soon the GPL will be claiming that programs that exec() GPL > programs are required to be licensed under GPL!!!! Hi Ted :) That's stretching it a bit, but I know where the you are coming from. There's a very good way of removing the limits this sort of thing can make possible: `Develop BSD code'. I'm sure you know that, so this is more for the random thread reader. The best way to improve BSD is not to `fight' the GPL but to embrace the BDSL and, well, sit down and write something that extends and improves BSD :)