From nobody Sat Jun 18 05:30:08 2022 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAF2A845218 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2022 05:30:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jaskaran.org) Received: from jaskaran.org (mail.jaskaran.org [140.82.14.8]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4LQ4HW5Ntzz3HhS; Sat, 18 Jun 2022 05:30:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jaskaran.org) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=jaskaran.org; s=mail; t=1655530209; bh=EV/ZM+kNMJZTKh4bD8D0EJIlNA4Z/JW8vhPN4rpm+1U=; h=Date:Subject:From:To:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=r+IYmKXkthBqOSclqKoSHqaWlhUbqMWTQz5vaz6WFc5EtOqX9UzH7d2Eb+Msu8NZY n7hyiOj9k/H2Nl9WSWrISLD3qzK1KYBTbV0+x2sF+YbBAnBKtwyVD17he7CRsCJaB6 7ASBX3dZhXw/xEWLv6N4QIgaBu+AOrc43HshUVriswZUpffArhpT349aCvlRis0P54 WtVVLtUIX0tjChB/WMNwoTXDgz5LxYwliGDk4Mn4GVYFUKJiHPDCstTnQDpJlydtlq K43Tzcx9Yl527g/t22oGbkfJJ9kEMTdGtf/wxuMVieWLhiCGhcy9SdhQKVYgP/OB2p 1DdNn4IgZ3aTw== Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2022 01:30:08 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: Re: Broken User Experience - online mailing list From: "Jaskaran Veer Singh" To: "Ian Smith" , Cc: X-Mailer: aerc 0.10.0-27-ge1d8bc4-dirty References: <2E1B782A-DB40-41B1-A036-A790C4DCC409@nimnet.asn.au> In-Reply-To: <2E1B782A-DB40-41B1-A036-A790C4DCC409@nimnet.asn.au> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4LQ4HW5Ntzz3HhS X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Adding to that, I'd love to see mailing list name automatically preprended = to the subject line. It helps with quickly knowing what list the message is fr= om. Other mailing lists (not FreeBSD) that I follow have this feature. Opinions? -- Jaskaran On Sat Jun 18, 2022 at 1:15 AM EDT, Ian Smith wrote: > Hi folks, cc: postmaster@ > > I've been partly keeping up with questions@ online the last year or so, t= hrough the change from pipermail to mlmmj and attendant loss of functionali= ty, but still quite usable. > > Until a week or two ago, when the latest radical change has completely br= oken the ability to smoothly traverse the latest or any previous month's me= ssages when read By Thread, namely: > > Instead of linking messages to next and previous messages in thread, ther= e are only (possibly multiple) Reply links, and Reply To links back, but no= "next / previous message in thread" links, which a) allowed full traversal= of all messages in the thread, and b) moving on to the next thread after t= he last one. > > As it's recently been changed to, you have to choose, one at a time, whic= h 'sub-thread' to view, at the end of which you're stuck. Unless you hit '= back' through that sub-thread to the first and then select the next Reply, = which is very tedious on slow connections. > > Worse, there's no way, as before, to view the whole list again from where= you're up to, to choose another such rabbithole, but you're thrown back to= the very top of the list, having to page down to find your place again. > > The only other option is to press 'back' after reading each message, wher= e you at least can pick the next message from index, also tedious. > > If that doesn't make sense, try for yourself: > > https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions/2022-June/index.html > > Try the thread(s) > > "OT: typing with broken arm" > > and try reading (or skimming) all messages in that thread. > > So, can this please be restored to how it was, not with pipermail (sadly)= but at least to where it was a couple of weeks ago? > > If so, I have some on-topic questions, but I must subscribe without email= delivery until I get a machine going. > > cheers old friends, Ian > > PS Please cc me on any reply.