From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 7 09:10:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E73D16A4CE for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 09:10:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E6A643D46 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 09:10:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j179AMj03415; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 01:10:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Joshua Tinnin" , Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 01:10:20 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200502061420.24415.krinklyfig@spymac.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal cc: Anthony Atkielski Subject: RE: favor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 09:10:24 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Joshua Tinnin > Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 2:20 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Cc: Anthony Atkielski > Subject: Re: favor > > > How do you suggest this list and all others like it deal with > this matter, in > practical terms? Don't suggest hiring lawyers, as that's > hardly practical. Clearly I think Anthony is saying in his posts to me that the list managers should e-mail legal boilerplate to every subscriber that they would then agree to, which would basically state that the poster waives their copyrights if they post. The problem I see is that doing this creates a contract, which is one of the issues we are disagreeing on. It also changes the signups on the list to that of an access-controlled forum which means that the owners of the forum are exercising editorial control, meaning they are republishing posts to the list, which means they have to obtain rights to do this from each poster when that poster posts. He is saying that since the act of signing up for the list creates a contract between the list owners and the poster, the list owner should issue a contract to the signupee that outlines their (lack of) rights if they post. I disagree that the act of signing up for the list creates a contract, since the list is publically available without signup, and espically since the list can be posted to by the general public without signup. Ted