From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 11:41:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B7C106564A for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 11:41:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kais.deliverymail@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f24.google.com (mail-gx0-f24.google.com [209.85.217.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DB508FC17 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 11:41:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kais.deliverymail@googlemail.com) Received: by gxk5 with SMTP id 5so3472154gxk.19 for ; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 04:41:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=N81bCWYiWCkHjOQhfUw/jx7nd+UsQ5JR3gBwhwLkbEw=; b=sm6Fekr7z/cpZdNM+HVPpgRqP5V4lTuopnfoJRgpPd9IGWPeD6LDNF68RVJlz57+bl YmVENLnmkZwy0S2y3xCujtlqjJ2/RUcFvUeebxGAwbFBkfpgvrJJWT/PgDJa6v9bDBko GLcjqX1OSHg2A3/uCkXnajmVDikdypljeQ+kM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=MYk+B+Tk15i7QzdncJQspWRusZm4t/awJ72Gwr8iVRAjVB8UzCcnsBCV/Ky+GX9Tkz H0MLjDGBoAGvT7lOyN0IrwpcN03eEXtNG2Igt3Cptsduh2RKcIPQUsquvretD+wLQOgf frrcccX4M33eyKuFMN2OaqxWMgitJQx0rwHWc= Received: by 10.150.191.10 with SMTP id o10mr16247985ybf.199.1220613889898; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 04:24:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.115.21 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 04:24:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <69919f4a0809050424n374cea16rb194b04ad55cd59d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 13:24:49 +0200 From: "Kai Otto" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <69919f4a0809050423r554105a1jd3f1233a1fbbc9ab@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <35445338-D597-4FE2-996F-DEC7BE986741@airwired.net> <48BEEB55.4050406@madpilot.net> <20080904062053.GA5953@icarus.home.lan> <650D6892-6372-44A2-957F-B049E70DB881@airwired.net> <1220609335.3846.6.camel@localhost> <69919f4a0809050423r554105a1jd3f1233a1fbbc9ab@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Fwd: FreeBSD 7.1 Content X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 11:41:36 -0000 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Kai Otto Date: 2008/9/5 Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.1 Content To: Tom Evans Hello I think someone mentioned it earlier, but I'm not shure. IMHO it would _be_ nice if there's a HTML-browser in the standard installation (with option to not install it in sysinstall). I say HTML and not web because I think about the /usr/share/doc .html-documentation. If someone really has no Internet-connection as mentioned before he/she isn't able to read the handbook, which IMHO is a very important part of FreeBSD. There are great manpages and exaple files, but the best explanations are in the handbook. Optional, the motd could tell the interested newbie how he/she can start reading the handbook. At the moment, the standard motd explains how to learn about manpages ('man man') and how to learn about the disklayout ('man hier') that's just great. An other way would be adding a hint to the shipped htmlbrowser (eg. lynx) and it's initialisation with the handbook to the hier manpage. I don't know if thats to 'deep hidden'. An other thing was the problem with the outdated packages on the discset and the people who need it because the 'target pc' for the install has no (or only slow) internetconnection. I think this is already solved: People needing up-to-date packages/ports can use the 'bootonly' iso-images and download the complete installation from a local or internet server. The other people can use the not-100%-up-to-date packages on the discset. Greets, Kai