From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 2 00:53:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B2F11065673 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 00:53:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayve@sfsu.edu) Received: from iron3.sfsu.edu (iron3.sfsu.edu [130.212.10.128]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EE928FC15 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 00:53:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayve@sfsu.edu) X-Inbound-SFSU: False X-onepass: IPPSC X-From-SFSU: True X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAP6m00mC1Apk/2dsb2JhbAC/JgEJBYZ1iE2CSoEzBoUr Received: from smtp01.sfsu.edu ([130.212.10.100]) by iron3.sfsu.edu with ESMTP; 01 Apr 2009 17:53:36 -0700 Received: from libra.sfsu.edu ([130.212.10.238]) by mail05a.sfsu.edu (Lotus Domino Release 7.0.3FP1HF555) with ESMTP id 2009040117533469-892 ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 17:53:34 -0700 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 17:53:35 -0700 (PDT) From: KAYVEN RIESE To: William Gordon Rutherdale In-Reply-To: <49D4011F.5080003@utoronto.ca> Message-ID: References: <200904011335.n31DZT6D062212@lurza.secnetix.de> <49D4011F.5080003@utoronto.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on MAIL05a/SERVERS/SFSU(Release 7.0.3FP1HF555 | January 28, 2009) at 04/01/2009 17:53:34, Serialize by Router on SMTP01/SERVERS/SFSU(Release 7.0.3HF378 | February 28, 2008) at 04/01/2009 17:53:36, Serialize complete at 04/01/2009 17:53:36 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why?? (prog question) X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 00:53:38 -0000 On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, William Gordon Rutherdale wrote: > KAYVEN RIESE wrote: >> >> On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Oliver Fromme wrote: >> >>> Polytropon wrote: >>> > William Gordon Rutherdale wrote: >> >>> In all of those cases, I simply press the key to >>> indent, and the key to dedent. There is no >>> need to change habits. The editor takes care of it. >>> I assume that every modern editor can be configured that >>> way. >> >> Since this is in chat, I guess I feel okay about making a fool >> of myself. Not everybody wants to deal with every week's new >> set of script kiddle gobbleygook. I hold a BSCS from the >> "late cretaceous" of 1989. After that I started studying >> molecular biology under the mistaken assumption that the >> blythering human race would stop idiotically barrelling into >> oblivion chopping off the icecaps at breakneck speed. Currently, >> having idioticaly tried to get back into computer science, I am >> enrolled in an MSCS at San Francisco State University. I keep >> crashing my kernels and keep getting insulted and rejected by >> the "online open source community" so I guess take what I have >> to say with a grain of salt. >> >> I learned the vi editor in 1985 and I am comfortable living on >> command lines without this "modern editor" nonsense. I have to >> say contemplating getting fired because some tyrant is going >> to bite my head off for failing to look at page 1234 of the documentation >> that clearly states that I MUST use a "modern editor" that will >> automate tabbing of my code makes me want to blow my head off >> right now and save the damn world the trouble. >> >> >>> Best regards >>> Oliver >>> >>> PS: Personally I think that the tab character (ASCII 9) >>> should die. It is a vestige of the IT middle ages, it has >>> no right to exist anymore today, and it only causes problems. >>> The very existence of this thread proves this point. >> >> I am now very confused. I thought I was arguing with this person, >> and now it appears we agree. Next, I'll be arguing with myself. >> > YOU are confused? I read your email and see that you quoted me as saying > what someone else wrote. You quote ME as saying that stuff about > " to dedent". In fact I did not write that. The other guy wrote > that. I don't think I've ever written the word "dedent" in my life, at least > until this paragraph. In fact, I'm not convinced that it IS a word. > > Regarding your other rant, I am (slightly) older than the president of the > United States, with an old-style university background in Mathematics and > Computer Science, and I don't see why you're so bothered over a "modern" > editor with capabilities approaching that of editors that were available in > the 1970s, such as Wordstar. > > What exactly is your problem with configuring your editor, to the point that > you have to blow your head off? I've blown my kernel. I can't get anything to work anymore. > > -Will > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > *----------------------------------------------------------* Kayven Riese, BSCS, MS (Physiology and Biophysics) (415) 902 5513 cellular http://kayve.net Webmaster http://ChessYoga.org *----------------------------------------------------------*