From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 00:33:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D74E10656BF; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 00:33:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) Received: from gizmo.2hip.net (gizmo.2hip.net [64.74.207.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDE418FC18; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 00:33:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [192.168.1.156] (adsl-157-61-189.bna.bellsouth.net [70.157.61.189]) (authenticated bits=0) by gizmo.2hip.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n380WReW038571 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:32:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) From: Robert Noland To: Joe Marcus Clarke In-Reply-To: <1239150469.98664.18.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> References: <934e1d760904061455o4736d643o1d07e3292192d94c@mail.gmail.com> <1239077210.1908.39.camel@balrog.2hip.net> <49DAD429.6090309@freebsd.org> <1239078081.1908.41.camel@balrog.2hip.net> <49DAE987.7090802@freebsd.org> <1239086408.35025.59.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20090407185915.GY31409@albert.catwhisker.org> <49DBA371.3080804@freebsd.org> <92cd2ff70904071637h362da63ua13c1f8eca6fc616@mail.gmail.com> <1239147806.98664.12.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <92cd2ff70904071653r4bf3b381lf5de220b2e280c0c@mail.gmail.com> <1239150469.98664.18.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-SuyV2ixyGVh/fceE9FgU" Organization: FreeBSD Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:32:56 -0500 Message-Id: <1239150776.1947.28.camel@balrog.2hip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_PBL, RDNS_DYNAMIC autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on gizmo.2hip.net Cc: Tim Kientzle , current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Hal and KDM breakage (was Re: KDE4 and input events stalled) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 00:33:47 -0000 --=-SuyV2ixyGVh/fceE9FgU Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 20:27 -0400, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 16:53 -0700, Tim Kientzle wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Joe Marcus Clarke > > wrote: > > =20 > > =20 > > It's not a question of what hal is doing, but rather how > > console-kit > > works (and hald depends on console-kit-daemon). It needs to > > be able to > > monitor each of the active vtys... > >=20 > > This is the part of the picture I'm still missing. *Why* does > > hald (via console-kit) care about tracking active vtys? > > (I presume hald actually doesn't care but that some client > > of hald needs this information.... ???) >=20 > ConsoleKit monitors the vtys for active changes so it can provide > consumers such as hal and PolicyKit information about active sessions. > In particular, hal uses CK to determine if a user is currently logged in > on the console, and if so, allows that user to mount certain volumes > that would otherwise not be allowed. >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > .... Bland did some work to correct this in -CURRENT, but it > > won't work on other versions. It was just easier to leave the > > hack in > > place. > > =20 > > If this could be universally fixed in all supported versions > > of FreeBSD, > > then I would be happy to remove the hacks. > >=20 > > I'm still curious whether it's feasible to just not monitor the vtys. >=20 > Sure, you can try it. Especially if you're not using GNOME, this might > be fine. Just remove the hacks from hald's rc.d script. I wonder if it might be sane to check for enable_gnome=3D"YES" to delay... robert. > Joe >=20 > >=20 --=20 Robert Noland FreeBSD --=-SuyV2ixyGVh/fceE9FgU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAknb8LgACgkQM4TrQ4qfRONGRwCdHKprhUYDmy23+U5/shxAPXyk RWIAmgNRwWA9+XHlyqWO6g1Bq4jcunGU =7o4J -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-SuyV2ixyGVh/fceE9FgU--