From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 16 15:43:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EE1816A4E0 for ; Sun, 16 Jul 2006 15:43:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADD6C43D45 for ; Sun, 16 Jul 2006 15:43:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.pc (patr530-a075.otenet.gr [212.205.215.75]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.7/8.13.7/Debian-1) with ESMTP id k6GFggdn021013 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 16 Jul 2006 18:42:45 +0300 Received: from gothmog.pc (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.pc (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k6GFfrVP002814; Sun, 16 Jul 2006 18:41:53 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.pc (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id k6GFfrj6002813; Sun, 16 Jul 2006 18:41:53 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 18:41:53 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: User Freebsd Message-ID: <20060716154153.GB2722@gothmog.pc> References: <20060714024743.BEC4B43D49@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <20060716113433.X1799@ganymede.hub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060716113433.X1799@ganymede.hub.org> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-4.183, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.22, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMP Performance (Was: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail ... ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 15:43:05 -0000 On 2006-07-16 11:45, User Freebsd wrote: > The problem, as I see it, is that until the OS gets used in "real life > production environments", some of the more obscure bugs don't get > found ... on a simple production server, not doing much, I doubt > anyone would ever see the file system deadlocks ... but, there are > several of us that are running it in production with heavy loads that > do ... but it takes a good load on the machine to trigger it, and I > doubt any of the developers have that to work with, and/or can easily > simulate the 'randomness' of a production environment ... Well said! Very much to the point, with reasonable, realistic arguments, as always, Marc :)