From owner-freebsd-current Sat May 16 20:23:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA22404 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 May 1998 20:23:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA22399 for ; Sat, 16 May 1998 20:23:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA01938; Sat, 16 May 1998 20:14:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd001936; Sun May 17 03:14:20 1998 Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 20:14:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: Brian Somers cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: NOTICE: Softupdates In-Reply-To: <199805161851.TAA20767@awfulhak.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG With all the euphoria about softupdates. I thought I should put out a reminder.. Soft updates is still not quite complete.. there is still a missing dependency that needs to be caught. It results in the occasional directory entry hitting the disk before the inode. This is still a lot safer than the old 'sync' code but it does indicate that people should not just 'trust it blindly'. in the light of softupdates, what 'sync()' does needs to be carefully thought about because there is room there for confusion. (I have not yet visited that code heavily) The dependency problem has been reproduced under BSDI. julian On Sat, 16 May 1998, Brian Somers wrote: > > Well, my machine's locked up again ! No softupdates and it happened > > when I tried to access an NFS mount from X - I *really* suspect that's > > the problem, not softupdates at all ! > > It turned out to be the WC stuff (now backed out) that was causing > the lock-ups ! > > I've now got softupdates on all drives and no async. We'll see how > it bears up :-) > > > -- > > Brian , , > > > > Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message